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Topic	Research Finds Half of Last Jedi Hate Aimed at Director Rian Johnson Came From P
darkknight109 10/03/18 3:41:54 AM #64:	Unbridled9 posted... Actually, they don't. Just the opposite. Bullshit they don't. When the Millenium Falcon is pulled into the Death Star or a shuttle lands on the second Death Star, there are enormous bays that seem to open out into space (again, previous lore basically says that all ships have a protective shield keeping the atmosphere in, which the bombers would presumably have had too). Or, if you want the least defensible of the bunch, how about when Han and Leia walk out into what they believe to be an asteroid cave with nothing to protect them other than a gas mask? Again, this isn't a "TLJ" thing so much as it is a "Star Wars" thing. Don't think about it too hard. Unbridled9 posted... Bombers like those would have been crap in a real fight They seemed to do just fine in the first one, in spite of significant odds against them. Unbridled9 posted... Want to also talk about 'losses'? Leia's actions caused them to lose their best pilot and have him get grounded in the following fight. They had their best pilot unable to help because they got pissy that he made the odds more favorable to them. Fucking what? Did you even watch the movie? Leia's actions did jack shit to Poe; Poe wasn't flying in the next fight because in the time he (and every other Resistance pilot) were running to get to their ships, Kylo Ren shot a missile directly into the hangar bay and obliterated the lot of them. If anything, Leia saved Poe's life because the brief delay from him running from the bridge meant he was on the outskirts of the hangar and was blasted away from it, rather than in the middle of it where he would have been killed. Unbridled9 posted... Pha! You don't know what 'Phyrric' means. Says the guy who proceeds to post the exact opposite of a "Pyrrhic victory", while misspelling it in the process. A Pyrrhic victory is one where you achieve victory in a nominal sense, but at a cost so significant to your cause that you are ill-positioned to deal with future engagements. The first battle is a great example for the Resistance - yes, they took out the Dreadnought while sacrificing comparatively few ships in return... but those ships were far, far more valuable and difficult to replace for them than the Dreadnought was for the First Order. Even without the Dreadnought, the battle group that the FO had available was more than enough to obliterate the Resistance's entire fleet, but now the Resistance has no bombers and a third of their fighters are gone, leaving them with limited abilities to counter an FO bomber-rush had they chosen to use one. --- Kill 1 man: You are a murderer. Kill 10 men: You are a monster. Kill 100 men: You are a hero. Kill 10,000 men, you are a conqueror! <cite>darkknight109 posted [p:909871362] in Research F... [t:77060522]...</cite> <quote><cite>Unbridled9 posted...</cite> <quote>Actually, they don't. Just the opposite.</quote> Bullshit they don't. When the Millenium Falcon is pulled into the Death Star or a shuttle lands on the second Death Star, there are enormous bays that seem to open out into space (again, previous lore basically says that all ships have a protective shield keeping the atmosphere in, which the bombers would presumably have had too). Or, if you want the least defensible of the bunch, how about when Han and Leia walk out into what they believe to be an asteroid cave with nothing to protect them other than a gas mask? Again, this isn't a "TLJ" thing so much as it is a "Star Wars" thing. Don't think about it too hard. <cite>Unbridled9 posted...</cite> <quote>Bombers like those would have been crap in a real fight</quote> They seemed to do just fine in the first one, in spite of significant odds against them. <cite>Unbridled9 posted...</cite> <quote>Want to also talk about 'losses'? Leia's actions caused them to lose their best pilot and have him get grounded in the following fight. They had their best pilot unable to help because they got pissy that he made the odds more favorable to them. </quote> Fucking what? Did you even watch the movie? Leia's actions did jack shit to Poe; Poe wasn't flying in the next fight because in the time he (and every other Resistance pilot) were running to get to their ships, Kylo Ren shot a missile directly into the hangar bay and obliterated the lot of them. If anything, Leia saved Poe's life because the brief delay from him running from the bridge meant he was on the outskirts of the hangar and was blasted away from it, rather than in the middle of it where he would have been killed. <cite>Unbridled9 posted...</cite> <quote>Pha! You don't know what 'Phyrric' means. </quote> Says the guy who proceeds to post the exact opposite of a "Pyrrhic victory", while misspelling it in the process. A Pyrrhic victory is one where you achieve victory in a nominal sense, but at a cost so significant to your cause that you are ill-positioned to deal with future engagements. The first battle is a great example for the Resistance - yes, they took out the Dreadnought while sacrificing comparatively few ships in return... but those ships were far, far more valuable and difficult to replace for them than the Dreadnought was for the First Order. Even without the Dreadnought, the battle group that the FO had available was more than enough to obliterate the Resistance's entire fleet, but now the Resistance has no bombers and a third of their fighters are gone, leaving them with limited abilities to counter an FO bomber-rush had they chosen to use one. --- Kill 1 man: You are a murderer. Kill 10 men: You are a monster. Kill 100 men: You are a hero. Kill 10,000 men, you are a conqueror!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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