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Unbridled9 posted...

He brought in arguably the WORST designed bomber ships of all time, ignoring the blatantly superior Y-Wing, just so he could have a sci-fi bombing run.

A single Y-wing did not have the punch to bring down a ship this size.

Things like anti-fighter turrets that couldn't handle a common fighter type because 'it's too low and fast'... which is like having a fly-swatter with holes big enough for flies to fit through.

You mean a large, seemingly-invulnerable construct has defence systems designed for large ships rather than starfighters, allowing small, one-man ships to penetrate the outer defences and exploit a vulnerability? And it even has an officer lampshading that by saying something like, for example, "We count 30 rebel ships, but they're so small they're evading our turbolasers?"

Yeah, fuck Rian Johnson! He should learn to follow the rules of the series rather than making up his own stuff.

Not to mention things like 'having armor/shields'

Which didn't seem to help in ANH, where Y-wings were getting one-shotted left and right.

and 'takes only one person to operate'.

You mean like Snowspeeders?

Plus let's not forget the stupid 'drop bombs in 0-G' bit, lack of proper shielding for keeping the air inside,

Both of those are longstanding Star Wars "things" that long predate TLJ.

We see hangar bays open to the hard vacuum of space with things (in this case ships, rather than weapons, but same dif) going in and out of them constantly. Star Wars just kind of assumes there's a magical anti-vacuum shield that keeps all the air in on their ships.

how the **** ONE BOMBER CAN TAKE OUT A GODDAMNED CAPITOL SHIP WITH ****ING HAND GRENADES NO LESS

There are literally fewer movies where this doesn't happen in Star Wars than where it does, and most of the cases are even worse than this. In Episode IV Luke takes out an entire moon-sized Battlestation with just one fighter-bomber, and in Episode VII Poe does the exact same thing to its bigger, badder cousin. In Episode I Anakin blows up a pivotal droid control ship almost by accident while flying a ship mostly designed for self-defence, and in Episode V the Empire's huge walking tanks are literally tripped up by what amounts to flying tow-trucks. Episode VI offers us a two-for-one as a single fighter - not even a bomber, but a fighter - takes out the Empire's flagship while yet-another-Death-Star is destroyed by the ever-reliable X-Wing and its smuggling freighter partner.

I dislike the opening battle because there's no buildup and the pacing is terrible, but don't act like this sort of thing hasn't been done before many, many times in the series.

'Poe. I know you just destroyed an entire capitol ship and did so with comparatively minimal losses... BUT YOU'RE FIRED FOR USING OUR SPACE-FIGHTERS TO FIGHT IN SPACE AND HAVING A K/D RATION OF ONLY 1,500 TO 1! Which is why I'm also not going to tell you about my super-secret plans despite having no reason to and doing so both actively hampering the plan and making you suspicious of me!'

Poe disobeyed direct orders and his actions got a lot of people killed. In addition, he lost roughly half of the Resistance's already limited starfighters, including its entire contingent of bombers. If Poe had done something like that in real life, he wouldn't have been slapped and demoted, he would have been court-martialled, charged with insubordination and dereliction of duty and, depending on how strict the Resistance's code of military justice was, would be facing either a long time in prison or a summary execution.
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