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Topic	Do you honestly think Trump has done a good job?
darkknight109 09/11/18 7:20:28 PM #65:	JixHedgehog posted... Im not rich and benefited from the tax cut, so did many other people in businesses that gave employees much deserved raises and/or bonuses, its about time the hard working American got something back And yet analysis shows the vast majority of money saved by corporations was not spent raising wages, but on stock buybacks and dividend payments. Which, when you think about it, makes sense - the tax rate does not determine employee wages, the job market does, and a company's primary obligation is to their shareholders, not their employees. JixHedgehog posted... He didnt destroy DACA, it was set to expire on its own. Wrong. Seriously, where did you even get this info, because it's not even a little bit correct. The program was not set to expire; Trump ordered the justice department to stop accepting new applications. A conservative Texas judge rejected the Trump administration's rationale for ending the program a few days ago and ordered it restarted (which he would not have been able to do if the program was expired). JixHedgehog posted... Breaking the law and entering illegally costs tax payers money The Trump administration's own analysis (which they tried to bury when they found out the results) proves this is not true. Over eight years, illegal immigrants paid a net $65 billion more into social services than they got out (largely because illegal immigrants still frequently pay taxes of various sorts, so as not to come under scrutiny by the IRS, but are ineligible for nearly all the social programs those taxes fund). JixHedgehog posted... No, DACA was faulty from the get-go DACA was a program to grant amnesty to individuals brought to the US as children, who had no say in their relocation and know nowhere else. Most are productive citizens; some have served in the armed forces. It is frankly ridiculous to suggest that a program that allows them to continue being productive citizens of the US. Notably, this is a page straight out the songbook of conservative icon Ronald Reagan, who did pretty much the exact same thing in the 80s, for the exact same reasons. If you're referring to the separated families at the border, dont forget a lot of the kids are there by themselves. You can't "separate" a child who is an unaccompanied minor (and the overwhelming majority of those crossing are not unaccompanied). Seriously, don't be obtuse. Everything went and continues to go well with North Korea, they've honored their promises to start denuclearization You wouldn't be interested in real estate, would you? I have this prime oceanfront property in Kansas, you see... Seriously, the government's own analysis has shown that North Korea has made no efforts to denuclearize - in fact, the US and North Korea aren't even in agreement on what "denuclearization" entails - and satellite photos have shown they're just moving nuclear production to another location while trying to pretend they're not. Kim played Trump like a cheap fiddle and got an end to US/SK war exercises and a reprieve from China on sanctions; Trump got a bag of magic beans and keeps trying to insist they're made of gold. What wall? You mean the one where prototypes have been created and presented to the President and plan to go up soon in areas he's gone to personally visit? Yes, the one that hasn't had a single brick constructed yet, and which has zero money allocated to it other than to repair and upgrade sections of already existing border fences. Keep dreaming - the wall is dead in the water. --- Kill 1 man: You are a murderer. Kill 10 men: You are a monster. Kill 100 men: You are a hero. Kill 10,000 men, you are a conqueror! <cite>darkknight109 posted [p:908559029] in Do you hon... [t:76989352]...</cite> <quote><cite>JixHedgehog posted...</cite> <quote>Im not rich and benefited from the tax cut, so did many other people in businesses that gave employees much deserved raises and/or bonuses, its about time the hard working American got something back</quote> And yet analysis shows the vast majority of money saved by corporations was not spent raising wages, but on stock buybacks and dividend payments. Which, when you think about it, makes sense - the tax rate does not determine employee wages, the job market does, and a company's primary obligation is to their shareholders, not their employees. <cite>JixHedgehog posted...</cite> <quote>He didnt destroy DACA, it was set to expire on its own.</quote> Wrong. Seriously, where did you even get this info, because it's not even a little bit correct. The program was not set to expire; Trump ordered the justice department to stop accepting new applications. A conservative Texas judge rejected the Trump administration's rationale for ending the program a few days ago and ordered it restarted (which he would not have been able to do if the program was expired). <cite>JixHedgehog posted...</cite> <quote>Breaking the law and entering illegally costs tax payers money</quote> The Trump administration's own analysis (which they tried to bury when they found out the results) proves this is not true. Over eight years, illegal immigrants paid a net $65 billion more into social services than they got out (largely because illegal immigrants still frequently pay taxes of various sorts, so as not to come under scrutiny by the IRS, but are ineligible for nearly all the social programs those taxes fund). <cite>JixHedgehog posted...</cite> <quote>No, DACA was faulty from the get-go</quote> DACA was a program to grant amnesty to individuals brought to the US as children, who had no say in their relocation and know nowhere else. Most are productive citizens; some have served in the armed forces. It is frankly ridiculous to suggest that a program that allows them to continue being productive citizens of the US. Notably, this is a page straight out the songbook of conservative icon Ronald Reagan, who did pretty much the exact same thing in the 80s, for the exact same reasons. <quote>If you're referring to the separated families at the border, dont forget a lot of the kids are there by themselves.</quote> You can't "separate" a child who is an unaccompanied minor (and the overwhelming majority of those crossing are not unaccompanied). Seriously, don't be obtuse. <quote>Everything went and continues to go well with North Korea, they've honored their promises to start denuclearization</quote> You wouldn't be interested in real estate, would you? I have this prime oceanfront property in Kansas, you see... Seriously, the government's own analysis has shown that North Korea has made no efforts to denuclearize - in fact, the US and North Korea aren't even in agreement on what "denuclearization" entails - and satellite photos have shown they're just moving nuclear production to another location while trying to pretend they're not. Kim played Trump like a cheap fiddle and got an end to US/SK war exercises and a reprieve from China on sanctions; Trump got a bag of magic beans and keeps trying to insist they're made of gold. <quote>What wall? You mean the one where prototypes have been created and presented to the President and plan to go up soon in areas he's gone to personally visit?</quote> Yes, the one that hasn't had a single brick constructed yet, and which has zero money allocated to it other than to repair and upgrade sections of already existing border fences. Keep dreaming - the wall is dead in the water. --- Kill 1 man: You are a murderer. Kill 10 men: You are a monster. Kill 100 men: You are a hero. Kill 10,000 men, you are a conqueror!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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