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Topic	The whole premise of Aquaman is stupid - spoilers
ParanoidObsessive 07/23/18 11:28:53 AM #13:	WhiskeyDisk posted... Kinda sounds like the plot to Black Panther from Kilmonger's POV too OP. Black Panther honestly goes back past the notion of monarchy to an even earlier determinant of rule, where heredity was less important than personal strength, and the chief of a tribe only held power so long as he could personally defend it - and thus other members of the tribe could challenge to take his place via single combat. The advent of agriculture and settlements tended to do away with that logic (as nomadic tribes settled, conquered territory, and kings slowly changed from war leaders to rich men who could afford to pay others to fight for them), but it was an accepted concept that humans embraced many times and places in history. (And at least from the Western perspective, African culture has always been somewhat backward, so those sorts of tribal traditions lasted far longer there than they did in places like Europe or Asia.) As they even say in the movie, it's an outmoded and dangerous mode of thinking - but it's also tradition, so they'll keep doing it. Especially since they seemingly have no reason to STOP - the normal practice is ceremonial at best, and has apparently never before (at least, that we know of) resulted in someone grossly unsuited to rule taking over the throne. If anything, Killmonger himself is the one of the only Wakandans in history to ever be in a POSITION to be raised outside of Wakanda, find his way back, and potentially challenge for rule without understanding anything about the nation or its people. But by the end of the movie, they're already starting to reconsider the old ways and assumptions. The entire POINT of Black Panther is basically that people need to find ways to balance tradition with innovation, embracing the worthwhile new while still cherishing the old - to not mindlessly cling to the past, but also not simply abandoning it entirely. T'Challa's rule will likely be the most progressive one the kingdom has ever seen, and any number of old assumptions are likely going to be examined and questioned, and some of them will probably be left behind. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family <cite>ParanoidObsessive posted [p:905576724] in The whole ... [t:76833815]...</cite> <quote><cite>WhiskeyDisk posted...</cite> <quote>Kinda sounds like the plot to Black Panther from Kilmonger's POV too OP.</quote> Black Panther honestly goes back past the notion of monarchy to an even earlier determinant of rule, where heredity was less important than personal strength, and the chief of a tribe only held power so long as he could personally defend it - and thus other members of the tribe could challenge to take his place via single combat. The advent of agriculture and settlements tended to do away with that logic (as nomadic tribes settled, conquered territory, and kings slowly changed from war leaders to rich men who could afford to pay others to fight for them), but it was an accepted concept that humans embraced many times and places in history. (And at least from the Western perspective, African culture has always been somewhat backward, so those sorts of tribal traditions lasted far longer there than they did in places like Europe or Asia.) As they even say in the movie, it's an outmoded and dangerous mode of thinking - but it's also tradition, so they'll keep doing it. Especially since they seemingly have no reason to STOP - the normal practice is ceremonial at best, and has apparently never before (at least, that we know of) resulted in someone grossly unsuited to rule taking over the throne. If anything, Killmonger himself is the one of the only Wakandans in history to ever be in a POSITION to be raised outside of Wakanda, find his way back, and potentially challenge for rule without understanding anything about the nation or its people. But by the end of the movie, they're already starting to reconsider the old ways and assumptions. The entire POINT of Black Panther is basically that people need to find ways to balance tradition with innovation, embracing the worthwhile new while still cherishing the old - to not mindlessly cling to the past, but also not simply abandoning it entirely. T'Challa's rule will likely be the most progressive one the kingdom has ever seen, and any number of old assumptions are likely going to be examined and questioned, and some of them will probably be left behind. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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