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Topic	So any form of masculinity is considered toxic now
SpiralDrift 06/27/18 5:30:35 PM #47:	pinky0926 posted... SpiralDrift posted... This is true but I think it's just human nature. We see it play out on all levels of human society. That's not to say that it's not bad. It just is what is. But I'm not excusing it just because of that. It's like if my cat tries to get the food on my plate, I'll shoo it away but I'm not gonna get too upset about it since it's just being a cat. It's undesirable behavior that should definitely be discouraged, but at the same time it's understandable. The question to ask here is "is a grown man catcalling women and making them feel uncomfortable as uncontrollable an instinct as the instinct to eat food is in a non-self aware barely domesticated animal?" Well I wouldn't defend that so much as I might defend someone offering their advice on how to stop it. The advice may be useless and annoying but if it's not meant maliciously then it's understandable as a typical human reaction and not worth getting too upset about. COVxy posted... SpiralDrift posted... This is true but I think it's just human nature. Everything is human nature, given the whole being natural and not supernatural thing. Rape is just human nature. Murder is just human nature. Etc... But why do you get so defensive when a problematic behavior is labeled? We're talking about two different things. What I'm talking about is mostly just a reflexive action and while it can be annoying is actually harmless. I mean it basically amounts to white noise banter. I wouldn't put such things in the same category as anything physically destructive, let alone rape or murder. --- Do unto others what your parents did to you. <cite>SpiralDrift posted [p:904078824] in So any for... [t:76755826]...</cite> <quote><cite>pinky0926 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SpiralDrift posted...</cite> <quote> This is true but I think it's just human nature. We see it play out on all levels of human society. That's not to say that it's not bad. It just is what is. But I'm not excusing it just because of that. It's like if my cat tries to get the food on my plate, I'll shoo it away but I'm not gonna get too upset about it since it's just being a cat. It's undesirable behavior that should definitely be discouraged, but at the same time it's understandable.</quote> The question to ask here is "is a grown man catcalling women and making them feel uncomfortable as uncontrollable an instinct as the instinct to eat food is in a non-self aware barely domesticated animal?"</quote> Well I wouldn't defend that so much as I might defend someone offering their advice on how to stop it. The advice may be useless and annoying but if it's not meant maliciously then it's understandable as a typical human reaction and not worth getting too upset about. <cite>COVxy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SpiralDrift posted...</cite> <quote>This is true but I think it's just human nature.</quote> Everything is human nature, given the whole being natural and not supernatural thing. Rape is just human nature. Murder is just human nature. Etc... But why do you get so defensive when a problematic behavior is labeled?</quote> We're talking about two different things. What I'm talking about is mostly just a reflexive action and while it can be annoying is actually harmless. I mean it basically amounts to white noise banter. I wouldn't put such things in the same category as anything physically destructive, let alone rape or murder. --- Do unto others what your parents did to you.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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