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Topicnorth korea summit was a huge waste of time, ok?
BlackPortrait
06/13/18 11:21:18 PM
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darkknight109 posted...
OhhhJa posted...
This darkknight weirdo keeps insisting we gave up something... we didn't lmao

Except, y'know, the whole joint military exercises thing. And the fact that Trump has said he's going to pull troops out of South Korea.

But sure. I guess that's "nothing". Keep telling yourself that.

BlackPortrait posted...
Do you know anything about summits?

A vast majority of summits don't accomplish much.

And I wasn't expecting much to be accomplished here. Again, if "nothing" had been accomplished, I would have been satisfied. As I mentioned at the start of my post, the summit being a waste of time would have been an improvement over it actually was: Donald Trump selling the farm for a bag of magic beans.

BlackPortrait posted...
The point is that it gets people talking. That, in itself, is huge.

It is. I'm not objecting to that.

Honestly, if there's one thing that I think Trump got correct it's that leader-to-leader dialogue with North Korea is a good idea. I will give him credit for that.

The talking part is not what I'm objecting to. It's what the talking led to that's looking like an unfolding disaster.

BlackPortrait posted...
We're not going to see any real benefits from this for a long time, but talking again is a necessary step.

We're not, but North Korea sure as hell will.

China's lifting their sanctions and is almost assuredly not going to be enforcing any of the ones imposed by the US (which they've explicitly credited to the summit and its results). The US is stopping their joint military exercises and, assuming Trump follows through on his pledge, reducing their troop presence. Those, plus the PR boost, are immediate wins for the world's most brutal regime.

Meanwhile, the US gets a handshake and a promise from a regime that has a long, long history of breaking similar promises.

This doesn't sound like the winning deal Donald Trump keeps insisting that he's the master of.


All of those you listed are good things.

The US needs to stop being an imperial power.
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