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SushiSquid posted...

Believing a rape report does not mean immediately convicting. We believe people who report theft or assault, but we still collect evidence and go through a trial. The issue is that our society has long treated rape victims differently from victims of other crimes, and I want to point out that, although there are idiots like this woman who abuse the system and lie, that is by far the minority.

Rape by its very nature is different from most other crimes, though, so it's natural to treat it differently. When an assault is reported, for instance, you'll have injuries on the person. If there's a beak-in, you'll have signs of forced entry. And it's worth noting that there *are* other crimes where the claim is questioned -- threats, for instance (and it's worth noting that people *frequently* lie about threats to get the law to go after a person. When I worked retail, a customer got in an argument with one of my coworkers then called the cops claiming that the coworker had threatened to shoot him with a guy stored in his car. It was a complete lie, but my coworker's car wound up being searched and nothing finally happened to the accuser).

adjl posted...

The_tall_midget posted...

No. That's f***ing dumb. You can take the reporting of rape seriously, but any accusations without actual proof should never, EVER be taken seriously until it is proven 100% beyond the shadow of a doubt.

"Taken seriously" does not mean "definitely results in a conviction." If accusations couldn't be taken seriously until there was guaranteed proof beyond a shadow of a doubt that they were true, there'd be no reason for courts to exist. Taking accusations seriously just means investigating as though there's a real chance the accusations are true.

They're usually taken seriously enough to make inquiries, even when the claim is dubious or the evidence against the guy is weak, as shown by the huge number of false convictions where DNA or a confession later proved innocence.

adjl posted...

The_tall_midget posted...

Here is the problem: modern accusations = accusing someone directly and having the simp white knights and feminist idiots ruining the person's reputation before ANY investigation is done.

How often does that actually happen? It's often cited as a major problem that's serious enough that nothing should be done to make reporting assault any easier or more effective, but how often does that really happen compared to the number of assault allegations?

It happens pretty damn frequently enough to be an issue, thanks to the 24-hour news cycle and SJWs who care more about narratives than evidence. Which is why there should be laws protecting the accused's identity at least until things go to trial.
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