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Topic	Longsword vs Katana
Kyuubi4269 02/13/18 12:56:46 PM #26:	Babbit55 posted... Curved is better at cutting. Period. As I said, technique. If you draw the blade to cut then it'll cut better than if you cleave and katana also decapite and cut limbs clean off with a clean swing despite the much shallower angle. The width helps the cut. Babbit55 posted... The katana was a battlefield weapon as much as the longsword, also the Lance and spear were designed very differently yet both for lunging attacks, the Lance however should not be confused with a much wider and broader, jousting lance, this was not designed to kill!. A lance used in combat looked much more like a spear or pike, than a jousting lance that you seeming think was used on the battlefield. Jujitsu was made because two samurai in armour can't do shit to eachother with swords, bare hand fighting is literally better. And all lances are big fuck off things, you don't get small lances. Babbit55 posted... No the folding made it very thin and sharp, it also meant it was very prone to chipping and nicking while being used and blunted much faster than a broader edge. No, folding is just a smithing technique to make the metal more consistent throughout, the design was slimmer independent of folding. It's prone to chipping because its hardness is higher, while being softer and thinner would cause distortion and tears. They did not blunt quickly, the hardness saw to that and I'm sure there will be a knife enthusiast here who could steer you in the right direction regarding blade composition and performance. Babbit55 posted... I literally say about half blading (made for a much better lunge as i said!) the side effect was that you could get that flat edge in the way of a blade and A - Have more control of the opposing blade as you have the leverage and B - prevent the blade getting nicked and chipped from contact. That nicking is desirable in blocking, it's called bite, that gave more control. Babbit55 posted... Not the most accurate or scientific video, but see the differences from a modern day, forged katana, and an edged hunk of steel! A big piece of metal breaks a small piece?? Colour me impressed you figured that out! Softer steels absorb more shock, on hard impacts soft steels are better off and allowed europeans to use their swords as bats. They don't hold a steep edge well, they don't keep any edge long but they are easier to sharpen. These are the tradeoffs of a soft metal. Katana were made for soft targets, were given a very steep sharpening angle and were very well maintained, Japan cultivated an environment where their swords would last despite damage to the metal being more severe, so the edge would be superior. --- RIP_Supa posted... I've seen some stuff <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted [p:896007160] in Longsword ... [t:76314402]...</cite> <quote><cite>Babbit55 posted...</cite> <quote>Curved is better at cutting. Period. </quote> As I said, technique. If you draw the blade to cut then it'll cut better than if you cleave and katana also decapite and cut limbs clean off with a clean swing despite the much shallower angle. The width helps the cut. <cite>Babbit55 posted...</cite> <quote>The katana was a battlefield weapon as much as the longsword, also the Lance and spear were designed very differently yet both for lunging attacks, the Lance however should not be confused with a much wider and broader, jousting lance, this was not designed to kill!. A lance used in combat looked much more like a spear or pike, than a jousting lance that you seeming think was used on the battlefield.</quote> Jujitsu was made because two samurai in armour can't do shit to eachother with swords, bare hand fighting is literally better. And all lances are big fuck off things, you don't get small lances. <cite>Babbit55 posted...</cite> <quote>No the folding made it very thin and sharp, it also meant it was very prone to chipping and nicking while being used and blunted much faster than a broader edge.</quote> No, folding is just a smithing technique to make the metal more consistent throughout, the design was slimmer independent of folding. It's prone to chipping because its hardness is higher, while being softer and thinner would cause distortion and tears. They did not blunt quickly, the hardness saw to that and I'm sure there will be a knife enthusiast here who could steer you in the right direction regarding blade composition and performance. <cite>Babbit55 posted...</cite> <quote>I literally say about half blading (made for a much better lunge as i said!) the side effect was that you could get that flat edge in the way of a blade and A - Have more control of the opposing blade as you have the leverage and B - prevent the blade getting nicked and chipped from contact. </quote> That nicking is desirable in blocking, it's called bite, that gave more control. <cite>Babbit55 posted...</cite> <quote>Not the most accurate or scientific video, but see the differences from a modern day, forged katana, and an edged hunk of steel!</quote> A big piece of metal breaks a small piece?? Colour me impressed you figured that out! Softer steels absorb more shock, on hard impacts soft steels are better off and allowed europeans to use their swords as bats. They don't hold a steep edge well, they don't keep any edge long but they are easier to sharpen. These are the tradeoffs of a soft metal. Katana were made for soft targets, were given a very steep sharpening angle and were very well maintained, Japan cultivated an environment where their swords would last despite damage to the metal being more severe, so the edge would be superior. --- RIP_Supa posted... I've seen some stuff</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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