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Topic	Roy Moore said Jewish People are going to HELL..as well as ALL NON-CHRISTIANS!!!
Zeus 12/06/17 4:39:17 PM #23:	adjl posted... Zeus posted... And if you think that the difference between a 5 y/o and a 16 y/o is merely "pedantic" then there's something very wrong with you. Is that not how the distinction is used? "This guy's a pedophile! What a creep!" "Technically it's ephebophilia if the victim's a teenager, and I'm going to hope that nitpicking about this is enough to deflect from the fact that I'm not commenting on whether or not the dude's a creep." There are certainly differences, which are reflected in that statutory rape and child rape are distinct charges, but those who use the word "ephebophilia" generally aren't as interested in that distinction as they are in trying to use a label that has no vernacular negative connotations (because nobody else ever uses it). There's a pretty massive fucking distinction between an actual child and a teen, which is why we have a separate word for teen. By misusing pedophile, you imply something different -- which is probably what you intentionally want to do, by falsely linking him to the automatic assumption that he's messing around with 5 y/os and 6 y/os. After all, it's a lot harder to get somebody outraged over an adult trying to mess around with teens. More generally, a 30+ y/o hitting on a 19 y/o or a 17 y/o has roughly the same levels of cringe. The only difference is one is legal, the other is not. adjl posted... Let's demonstrate: Should the allegations against him prove true, would you consider Roy Moore to be a creep? Active tense implies that he's still engaging in those kinds of behaviors. 40 years ago, he hit on girls who were a bit too young. At the time, it would have made him a bit of a creep. However, that was 40 years ago back when he was single and at a time when he could have legally married many of those girls. The only real issue is the 14 y/o's allegation which, if true, should have put him in jail for a few months. However, again, all of that was 40 years ago. If he was a creep then, he's apparently not one now. streamofthesky posted... Zeus posted... Also, we've had like a dozen Roy Moore topics yet you haven't talked about Conyers retiring amid sexual assault allegations and wanting to give his seat to his son who has never held an office in his life =p I love how Zeus feels the need to point out that abusing a 14 year old is technically a different term than a pedo b/c it's off by a year or 2, but casually replaces "sexual harassment" with "sexual assault" when talking about Conyers. There was touching involved which makes it assault. If there was no touching, it'd just be harassment. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| In Zeus We Trust: All Others Pay Cash <cite>Zeus posted [p:891710112] in Roy Moore ... [t:76066883]...</cite> <quote><cite>adjl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote>And if you think that the difference between a 5 y/o and a 16 y/o is merely "pedantic" then there's something very wrong with you.</quote> Is that not how the distinction is used? "This guy's a pedophile! What a creep!" "Technically it's ephebophilia if the victim's a teenager, and I'm going to hope that nitpicking about this is enough to deflect from the fact that I'm not commenting on whether or not the dude's a creep." There are certainly differences, which are reflected in that statutory rape and child rape are distinct charges, but those who use the word "ephebophilia" generally aren't as interested in that distinction as they are in trying to use a label that has no vernacular negative connotations (because nobody else ever uses it).</quote> There's a pretty massive fucking distinction between an actual child and a teen, which is why we have a separate word for teen. By misusing pedophile, you imply something different -- which is probably what you intentionally want to do, by falsely linking him to the automatic assumption that he's messing around with 5 y/os and 6 y/os. After all, it's a lot harder to get somebody outraged over an adult trying to mess around with teens. More generally, a 30+ y/o hitting on a 19 y/o or a 17 y/o has roughly the same levels of cringe. The only difference is one is legal, the other is not. <cite>adjl posted...</cite> <quote>Let's demonstrate: Should the allegations against him prove true, would you consider Roy Moore to be a creep?</quote> Active tense implies that he's still engaging in those kinds of behaviors. 40 years ago, he hit on girls who were a bit too young. At the time, it would have made him a bit of a creep. However, that was 40 years ago back when he was single and at a time when he could have legally married many of those girls. The only real issue is the 14 y/o's allegation which, if true, should have put him in jail for a few months. However, again, all of that was 40 years ago. If he was a creep then, he's apparently not one now. <cite>streamofthesky posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote>Also, we've had like a dozen Roy Moore topics yet you haven't talked about Conyers retiring amid sexual assault allegations and wanting to give his seat to his son who has never held an office in his life =p</quote> I love how Zeus feels the need to point out that abusing a 14 year old is technically a different term than a pedo b/c it's off by a year or 2, but casually replaces "sexual harassment" with "sexual assault" when talking about Conyers.</quote> There was touching involved which makes it assault. If there was no touching, it'd just be harassment. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| In Zeus We Trust: All Others Pay Cash</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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