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Topic	You are in a fight. You're losing
MannerSaurus 10/22/17 4:32:10 PM #28:	Action53 posted... MannerSaurus posted... want to give you a warning, that isn't how the stand your ground law works entirely. There has to be disparity of force, where "death or great bodily harm" would have resulted if you didn't pull the trigger. If you are more muscular or in general bigger than the guy attacking you, YOU CANNOT use lethal force to end the dispute. If Vin Diesel was being threatened hand to hand violence by Jim Parsons in a "Castle Doctrine" state, and Vin Diesel used a firearm to protect himself, Vin Diesel would go to prison and so will you in the same scenario. There has to be a disparity of force, such as someone much tougher than you attacking you, someone using a weapon (be it knife, baseball bat, crowbar, gun), or multiple attackers threatening you. Someone trying to start a fight and kick your ass is plenty in this state. I have zero legal duty to retreat from somewhere I'm legally allowed to be, the size of the attacker has nothing to do with it, I have no idea what drugs the other person is on nor what his intentions are or what they might have in their pockets, just them coming at someone in an aggressive and threatening manner. What you're saying may be true in your state or further north than mine but it's acceptable here and has been proven to be true in multiple cases similar to what I described. I'm not saying I would definitely shoot someone or am looking for a reason either, I'd hate to have to do something like that. But with an angry person in a fighting mood I'd pick my life over theirs every time. Any of the 50 states of the United States what I said is true. If it can be proven that your life was not in danger (say you are jacked, and the attacker was some skinny punk), or that you escalated the situation to lethal when it wasn't to begin with, you will be sitting in prison. You don't have to take my word on it. You cannot discharge a firearm in the United States of America without being legitimately afraid of "death or great bodily harm" towards you or somebody else. Some little guy wanting to break your nose in a bar fight is NOT grounds for even pulling a firearm, much less firing it, especially if you're a big enough person to handle the situation without it. Do you think a 330 pound bouncer can just pull his sidearm out and shoot a 115 pound 18 year old skater kid swinging on him? That would be a prison sentence in all 50 states. You can argue with me all you want, but I just hope you don't ever get proven wrong inside of a cell. --- IT'S TOO LATE... TO GO BACK... I let darkness.. seep through the cracks... Love is bleeding, I curse my breathing... the day is gone.. the day is gone... <cite>MannerSaurus posted [p:888925377] in You are in... [t:75906462]...</cite> <quote><cite>Action53 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MannerSaurus posted...</cite> <quote> want to give you a warning, that isn't how the stand your ground law works entirely. There has to be disparity of force, where "death or great bodily harm" would have resulted if you didn't pull the trigger. If you are more muscular or in general bigger than the guy attacking you, YOU CANNOT use lethal force to end the dispute. If Vin Diesel was being threatened hand to hand violence by Jim Parsons in a "Castle Doctrine" state, and Vin Diesel used a firearm to protect himself, Vin Diesel would go to prison and so will you in the same scenario. There has to be a disparity of force, such as someone much tougher than you attacking you, someone using a weapon (be it knife, baseball bat, crowbar, gun), or multiple attackers threatening you.</quote> Someone trying to start a fight and kick your ass is plenty in this state. I have zero legal duty to retreat from somewhere I'm legally allowed to be, the size of the attacker has nothing to do with it, I have no idea what drugs the other person is on nor what his intentions are or what they might have in their pockets, just them coming at someone in an aggressive and threatening manner. What you're saying may be true in your state or further north than mine but it's acceptable here and has been proven to be true in multiple cases similar to what I described. I'm not saying I would definitely shoot someone or am looking for a reason either, I'd hate to have to do something like that. But with an angry person in a fighting mood I'd pick my life over theirs every time.</quote> Any of the 50 states of the United States what I said is true. If it can be proven that your life was not in danger (say you are jacked, and the attacker was some skinny punk), or that you escalated the situation to lethal when it wasn't to begin with, you will be sitting in prison. You don't have to take my word on it. You cannot discharge a firearm in the United States of America without being legitimately afraid of "death or great bodily harm" towards you or somebody else. Some little guy wanting to break your nose in a bar fight is NOT grounds for even pulling a firearm, much less firing it, especially if you're a big enough person to handle the situation without it. Do you think a 330 pound bouncer can just pull his sidearm out and shoot a 115 pound 18 year old skater kid swinging on him? That would be a prison sentence in all 50 states. You can argue with me all you want, but I just hope you don't ever get proven wrong inside of a cell. --- IT'S TOO LATE... TO GO BACK... I let darkness.. seep through the cracks... Love is bleeding, I curse my breathing... the day is gone.. the day is gone...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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