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Zeus posted...

wolfy42 posted...

I mean, yeah, if you work at a olive garden or a red robbin, you may make less then $20 an hour average (certainly not the $13 they claim is average in that article lol...in fact in WA the min wage is $11 before tips are even factored in).

Calling bullshit on that. No waiter/waitress I've known has averaged even $16/hr with tips on a good day. And minimum wage for waiters/waitresses is LESS than the minimum wage for other sectors because it assumes you get tips. In Washington, the minimum wage is $9.47 for waiters and they average $13.25 with tips.

https://www.bls.gov/oes/current/oes353031.htm

I just don't think they are reporting how much they actually make, not from what I have heard at least from actual people working those jobs.

Then again, it's just a small number of people, so maybe the average is really that low. Honestly though, it just does not make sense. I eat out often, and I don't see waiters getting stiffed, the pure amount of cash alone I see them getting leads me to think they make at LEAST $10 more then base pay.

Base pay in my area at least is $11 btw, not sure where the 9$ and change came from, unless it was from before the min wage was boosted to $11. It may not be universal to all of Washington I guess.

My point is, usually when I ate out with just my wife, the waiter/waitress with just our tip made almost $20....just from us...and trust me, they always had other tables they where working at.

Now, some places make them split tips with other staff, cooks etc...in which case that would change. I'm talking about if the waiter/waitress gets to keep all the tips themselves. If it's split between multiple people that would change things drastically.

But yeah, sorry, it's $40 min for just me and my wife to eat at a low tier place (not even mentioning all the times I paid for 4 of use..where it was usually $100 or close for low tier places due to drinks).

That, from just one table is $8 for me and my wife and $20 for all 4 of us, just from one table. Add that to 11$ an hour and that is $31 an hour right there...and that is just from me.

So how does that translate into $13 an hour in any world? I'm talking about min cost meals of $15, with say $5 for drinks/appetizers etc per person (again low end places, not the expensive ones we often went to as well).

It just doesn't make sense. The "surveys" etc don't actually track tips, because even the website you posted stated that most tips go un-reported.
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