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Mead posted...

Zeus posted...

The same people who pay their childcare costs while they're sitting on the couch: The government or checks from their baby daddy. That's assuming they even have kids.

Don't you have to have kids to recieve welfare?

No, you don't. A lot of entitlement benefits are income-based only. You get added benefits for having kids, though, which often wind up not going to the kids.

MrZAP17 posted...

You know, people who think like you honestly make me mad. You seem to refuse to accept the reality that things don't always work out for the best and that there are times when people genuinely need assistance that isn't provided by the market or normal charity. You make assumptions about the lifestyles of people you've never even met and don't seem to have any empathy for based off of dubious grounds. Any suggestions you have are oversimplistic and seem to lack any thoroughness or care. And what does it add up to?

That is the reality. It makes me mad that people like you refuse to acknowledge the widespread abuse in the system. There are bodegas who make most of their money defrauding the system. Likewise, there are countless able-bodied people -- who are able-minded as well -- who sit idle.

MrZAP17 posted...

You know, I'm on SSI myself, and Medicaid, and have been for most of my adult life. I have a number of mental issues that make it practically impossible to find work, or to finish school. I live month to month on a currently reliable but very meager income, and my options are severely limited. You wouldn't believe how distressing that is to me, especially since I'm actually quite ambitious and have anxiety issues and have a fairly strong idealistic streak. I'm not happy in my current situation but I do my best to deal with it.

Then you should be forced to seek help for those issues rather than using your disability as a crutch. You claim that you're ambitious, but actually ambitious people find a way to overcome their problems. And frankly, your situation is only made worse by your inaction. Arctic -- who you may or may not have known on these boards -- had the same issues. And you know what happened to him? He succumbed to doing nothing and turned into an extremely bitter human being. I don't want that for you. I want you to put the effort into fixing yourself so you can be a functional adult capable of pursuing happiness and working to maintain society.

MrZAP17 posted...

And there are many people in a worse position than I am and who are less secure, and I guarantee you from personal experience as well as study that we far outnumber anyone defrauding you or the government.

At the end of the day, people deliberately defrauding the government and NEETs who refuse to get help to deal with their claimed anxiety issues are both refusing to contribute to society. It's not like you have a physical disability impairing you from working -- especially one sustained *while* working -- which you should be seeking treatment for or trying to work through. If you live in California like you claim, you should be able to take advantage of the countless free social programs to receive counseling. Change doesn't happen unless you want it and, if you actually wanted it, you'd be putting in the effort. As for your anxiety, clearly it's not so bad as to stop you from posting which people with more legitimate anxiety problems can't do.

MrZAP17 posted...

The policies you advocate are literally putting people's lives at risk

You mean encouraging people who can work to work is putting lives at risk? -_- Honestly, think of this as GIVING you a life by encouraging you to go out into the real world and live among us.
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