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Topic	Trump says People who DON'T WORK, then you DON'T EAT!! Do you agree with that???
Zeus 05/25/17 3:48:54 PM #62:	BlackScythe0 posted... I'm pretty sure most people who benefit from welfare do work. Then those individuals wouldn't be affected. wolfy42 posted... Starvation will not happen in the US, because there is an abundance of food everywhere. What will happen is people with no money who are hungry will commit crimes, and end up in jail. Which will get them food, medical care etc, but cost WAY more. Even if you cut back on how much is spent on theprisoners and make it even worse (and many prisons are already pretty horrible due to over crowding), it still will cost taxpayers far more then the current program. That being said, no food stamps without work is a fine program IF you ensure that anyone who needs foodstamps has a job they can do to receive them (even if it's 2 hours a day or something doing community service, cleaning a park etc). I'm all for no food without work, but the work part needs to be made available for everyone, even those with disabilities (answering phones etc). Just cutting programs and telling people to handle it, is just going to create more crime and more deperate people....it will lead to more spending not less, and more misery all around, including for those who are already working and have been. Except no, what will happen is that other sources will pick up the legitimate slack while people who were defrauding the government (a lot of bodegas will cash out EBT benefits for 75 cents on the dollar) will move to a new entitlement to defraud. Mead posted... OneTimeBen posted... Go pick up trash all day and get payed. Major cities should be all about it. Expand housing and sent out the trash collectors. So who pays for their childcare while they are out picking up trash? You gonna have the kids out there working too? The same people who pay their childcare costs while they're sitting on the couch: The government or checks from their baby daddy. That's assuming they even have kids. GeoMaggs posted... InfestedAdam posted... On another note, with how much food that goes to waste in the U.S., I see no reason to not serve the excess food to those in need. Hell, plenty of food are still good after the sell-by date but are thrown away by markets. Simple: Liability. If that poor person gets sick from your expired food. Lawsuit. No matter what sort of disclaimer you have or warnings you give. This is the US we're talking about. Except expanded Good Samaritan laws can correct that -- as well the food itself going through an intermediary -- and we're talking about food ABOUT to expire rather than just expired food. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| In Zeus We Trust: All Others Pay Cash <cite>Zeus posted [p:879797381] in Trump says... [t:75383214]...</cite> <quote><cite>BlackScythe0 posted...</cite> <quote>I'm pretty sure most people who benefit from welfare do work.</quote> Then those individuals wouldn't be affected. <cite>wolfy42 posted...</cite> <quote>Starvation will not happen in the US, because there is an abundance of food everywhere. What will happen is people with no money who are hungry will commit crimes, and end up in jail. Which will get them food, medical care etc, but cost WAY more. Even if you cut back on how much is spent on theprisoners and make it even worse (and many prisons are already pretty horrible due to over crowding), it still will cost taxpayers far more then the current program. That being said, no food stamps without work is a fine program IF you ensure that anyone who needs foodstamps has a job they can do to receive them (even if it's 2 hours a day or something doing community service, cleaning a park etc). I'm all for no food without work, but the work part needs to be made available for everyone, even those with disabilities (answering phones etc). Just cutting programs and telling people to handle it, is just going to create more crime and more deperate people....it will lead to more spending not less, and more misery all around, including for those who are already working and have been.</quote> Except no, what will happen is that other sources will pick up the legitimate slack while people who were defrauding the government (a lot of bodegas will cash out EBT benefits for 75 cents on the dollar) will move to a new entitlement to defraud. <cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote><cite>OneTimeBen posted...</cite> <quote>Go pick up trash all day and get payed. Major cities should be all about it. Expand housing and sent out the trash collectors.</quote> So who pays for their childcare while they are out picking up trash? You gonna have the kids out there working too?</quote> The same people who pay their childcare costs while they're sitting on the couch: The government or checks from their baby daddy. That's assuming they even have kids. <cite>GeoMaggs posted...</cite> <quote><cite>InfestedAdam posted...</cite> <quote>On another note, with how much food that goes to waste in the U.S., I see no reason to not serve the excess food to those in need. Hell, plenty of food are still good after the sell-by date but are thrown away by markets.</quote> Simple: Liability. If that poor person gets sick from your expired food. Lawsuit. No matter what sort of disclaimer you have or warnings you give. This is the US we're talking about.</quote> Except expanded Good Samaritan laws can correct that -- as well the food itself going through an intermediary -- and we're talking about food ABOUT to expire rather than just expired food. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| In Zeus We Trust: All Others Pay Cash</quote> ... 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