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TopicFrance's presidential election is soon underway. Who've you got?
Metal_Gear_Link
05/08/17 2:37:38 PM
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Zeus posted...
Zeus posted...
Metal_Gear_Link posted...
According to Trump justice warriors everyone who is not far right is a leftist SJW....


...what? The only so-called justice warriors are leftists because it's a moniker they adopted.

Metal_Gear_Link posted...
He worked for a left wing party but formed a centrist party based on centrist policies changing party is common in countries where there are more than 2 prominent parties, stop trying to apply America's politics to every otehr countries


Except no, his policies are very much in keeping with his far-left masters. He's not for anything truly conservative and only favors liberal causes, in addition to being the strongest advocate for the EU which is an overwhelmingly leftist institution given its redistributionary practices, immigration policies, etc

Also, returning to this:
Metal_Gear_Link posted...
an actuall centrist which cannot exist here because of the electoral college


It's not true in the last. First of all, the electoral has nothing to do with anything. Secondly, we MOSTLY get candidates closer to center each time. Excluding Jim Webb, Hillary was closer to center than her competitors on *most* issues (guns being the biggest exception). John McCain was an incredibly moderate candidate (based on his 2008 ratings, since then and before then he showed as harder right but, in general, he's frequently co-sponsored a lot of bills with democrats including iirc most of the bills Obama was involved in), who did lose to a more extreme opponent.

As for this election, the furthest left candidate was Bernie Sanders and the furthest right was Ted Cruz (and the most libertarian was Rand Paul). Neither secured a party nomination. Instead it went to Hillary Clinton, who notably suggested the smallest minimum wage increase of the remaining Dem candidates, and Donald Trump, who notably was the only leading candidate who said he wanted to retain parts of the ACA during a debate whereas his opponents -- Cruz and Rubio -- wanted it completely repealed (Kasich was, of course, softer but he hadn't been a serious candidate for a long time at that point since he had been mathematically eliminated)


@Metal_Gear_Link since he might have missed it.


@Zeus Thanks I missed it

Macron is being attacked left and right in far left sites for not being progresive enopught they wanted melchelon

also what I meant is a full centrist part.

The electoral college, the 2 senators by state and the congress being elected 1 by district instead of lets say 50 per state makes it very hard more a third party to ever become big
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