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TopicHere is why I think Christianity is a bad ideology
CowboyDan
04/12/17 7:46:07 PM
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Jesus came and fulfilled the old laws.

Not true at all. Jesus cannot possibly be considered a prophet under the old covenant. The fact that he didn't fulfill the "old laws" is exactly why he is rejected by Judaism.

The earliest Christians were in large part, active adherents of Judaism. To say he was rejected by "Judaism" isn't really accurate. Factions within Judaism supported him while others didn't.

No, he was and is rejected by Judaism. A small group of Jewish followers early on doesn't mean he wasn't rejected by Judaism as a whole. Moreover, it was and is impossible for Jewish people to accept Jesus or any other Messiah, because we weren't and aren't in a Messianic age, and Jesus wasn't a direct blood descendent of David. This is sometimes countered by suggesting that Mary was a descendent of David, but Jewish law only recognizes the male line.

There is literally no such thing as Judaism as a whole and there never has been.

Moreover there are Messianc Jews even today that practice Judaism and worship Jesus. A sect of Jews started Christianity, and they didnt see themselves as starting a new religion because they operated within the old one.

It doesn't matter how they saw themselves, and they did start a new religion. And "Judaism as a whole" just refers to the religion at large, arguing that because a very small group of Jewish people believe in Jesus' divinity means he's held up by Jews as the messiah is asinine. He was absolutely rejected as the son of God by Judaism in general.
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