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epik_fail1
04/11/17 6:29:02 PM
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Deuteronomy 17

If there be found among you, within any of thy gates which the LORD thy God giveth thee, man or woman, that hath wrought wickedness in the sight of the LORD thy God, in transgressing his covenant; 17:3 And hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded; 17:4 And it be told thee, and thou hast heard of it, and enquired diligently, and, behold, it be true, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought in Israel; 17:5 Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed that wicked thing, unto thy gates, even that man or that woman, and shalt stone them with stones, till they die.

do you agree with this christians?
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meingott
04/11/17 6:30:37 PM
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That's a Jewish passage, not a Christian one.
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ThyCorndog
04/11/17 6:30:50 PM
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Is that basically telling you to stone the infidels?
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Howl
04/11/17 6:32:16 PM
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ThyCorndog posted...
Is that basically telling you to stone the infidels?


Not basically, that's exactly what it's saying.
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meingott
04/11/17 6:32:45 PM
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ThyCorndog posted...
Is that basically telling you to stone the infidels?


Not quite. It was saying that if there were any Jews who witnessed God's miracles and agreed to his terms and then decided to worship an inanimate object, they should be executed via stoning.
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MakoReizei
04/11/17 6:33:21 PM
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I thought it was because it says gay sex is wrong
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Paragon21XX
04/11/17 6:35:24 PM
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meingott posted...
That's a Jewish passage, not a Christian one.

You're right, but TC won't care.
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ManLink4321
04/11/17 6:37:10 PM
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TC is rong
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epik_fail1
04/11/17 6:39:14 PM
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It's in the old testament.
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Philoktetes
04/11/17 6:39:40 PM
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so TC do you think worshipping false gods is cool and good?
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monkmith
04/11/17 6:40:36 PM
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this applies to all abrahamic religions, all three are bad.
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meingott
04/11/17 6:41:38 PM
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epik_fail1 posted...
It's in the old testament.


Which is a Jewish text
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meingott
04/11/17 6:41:58 PM
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monkmith posted...
this applies to all abrahamic religions, all three are bad.


Christians are not allowed to stone anyone
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epik_fail1
04/11/17 6:42:27 PM
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"if it makes us look bad, it doesn't count"

-christians.
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meingott
04/11/17 6:42:56 PM
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epik_fail1 posted...
"if it makes us look bad, it doesn't count"

-christians.


It's literally a Jewish text.
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ThePrinceFish
04/11/17 6:43:35 PM
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Stoning someone to death would go blatantly against Christ's teachings from the New Covenant.
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epik_fail1
04/11/17 6:43:40 PM
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meingott posted...
epik_fail1 posted...
"if it makes us look bad, it doesn't count"

-christians.


It's literally a Jewish text.


So... christians didn't exist before the new testament.
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meingott
04/11/17 6:45:16 PM
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epik_fail1 posted...
meingott posted...
epik_fail1 posted...
"if it makes us look bad, it doesn't count"

-christians.


It's literally a Jewish text.


So... christians didn't exist before the new testament.


No, they didn't.
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monkmith
04/11/17 6:45:51 PM
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meingott posted...
epik_fail1 posted...
"if it makes us look bad, it doesn't count"

-christians.


It's literally a Jewish text.

christianity (and islam) is a subset of judaism. jesus was jewish, and many christians read the old testament. just because it isn't supported anymore doesn't mean its not there.
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epik_fail1
04/11/17 6:46:51 PM
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meingott posted...
epik_fail1 posted...
meingott posted...
epik_fail1 posted...
"if it makes us look bad, it doesn't count"

-christians.


It's literally a Jewish text.


So... christians didn't exist before the new testament.


No, they didn't.


and it somehow count as christian when refering to gays.
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MakoReizei
04/11/17 6:47:21 PM
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epik_fail1 posted...
meingott posted...
epik_fail1 posted...
"if it makes us look bad, it doesn't count"

-christians.


It's literally a Jewish text.


So... christians didn't exist before the new testament.

wouldn't make much sense for Christians to exist before Jesus did

lol I knew he was going to bring up gays.
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masterpug53
04/11/17 6:47:50 PM
#22:


epik_fail1 posted...
meingott posted...
epik_fail1 posted...
"if it makes us look bad, it doesn't count"

-christians.


It's literally a Jewish text.


So... christians didn't exist before the new testament.


lolololololol, apt username strikes again.
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monkmith
04/11/17 6:48:01 PM
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MakoReizei posted...
epik_fail1 posted...
meingott posted...
epik_fail1 posted...
"if it makes us look bad, it doesn't count"

-christians.


It's literally a Jewish text.


So... christians didn't exist before the new testament.

wouldn't make much sense for Christians to exist before Jesus did

lol I knew he was going to bring up gays.

christ is in the name after all...
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epik_fail1
04/11/17 6:48:26 PM
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MakoReizei posted...
epik_fail1 posted...
meingott posted...
epik_fail1 posted...
"if it makes us look bad, it doesn't count"

-christians.


It's literally a Jewish text.


So... christians didn't exist before the new testament.

wouldn't make much sense for Christians to exist before Jesus did

lol I knew he was going to bring up gays.


Yes, I did, someone made me think about it in this topic.
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WaffIeElite
04/11/17 6:48:57 PM
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"I totally did real magic for serious, guys, but I can't prove it. Now give money and do what I say or burn in hell."

That's why it's bad.
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epik_fail1
04/11/17 6:49:49 PM
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Sorry, I don't follow any specific religion. my knowledge about fictional characters is better when it comes to the x-men.
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twitterfriends
04/11/17 6:50:04 PM
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Christianity, Islam, Judaism all are backwards and have never gotten us any world peace.
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Doe
04/11/17 6:50:22 PM
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meingott posted...
ThyCorndog posted...
Is that basically telling you to stone the infidels?


Not quite. It was saying that if there were any Jews who witnessed God's miracles and agreed to his terms and then decided to worship an inanimate object, they should be executed via stoning.

fucked up regardless tbh

Why does God have to have his people do his killing anyway. What a little bitch
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epik_fail1
04/11/17 6:50:40 PM
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WaffIeElite posted...
"I totally did real magic for serious, guys, but I can't prove it. Now give money and do what I say or burn in hell."

That's why it's bad.


When you look at it this way, it is not that different from modern cults.
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IHeartRadiation
04/11/17 6:51:31 PM
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I expected a joke topic



And I got one
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epik_fail1
04/11/17 6:51:39 PM
#32:


Khalpz posted...
epik_fail1 posted...
meingott posted...
epik_fail1 posted...
"if it makes us look bad, it doesn't count"

-christians.


It's literally a Jewish text.


So... christians didn't exist before the new testament.

This n**** must be jokin.


tbh I was. I just think it's interesting that christians cherry pick what they want to believe from the old testament.
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meingott
04/11/17 6:51:52 PM
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monkmith posted...
christianity (and islam) is a subset of judaism. jesus was jewish, and many christians read the old testament. just because it isn't supported anymore doesn't mean its not there.


Except Jesus never supported that, and Christianity never supported that. Just because they refer to Jewish texts for historical purposes does not mean that they supported those rules.
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The Admiral
04/11/17 6:52:04 PM
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epik_fail1 posted...
"if it makes us look bad, it doesn't count"

-christians.


Those Old Testament laws are superseded in Christianity by Jesus' New Covenant.

So everyone who is attacking you is right -- you're taking laws that were specifically given to Moses and the Jews during their pilgrimage through the desert 2000 years ago and pretending like they have anything to do with modern Christian beliefs.
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meingott
04/11/17 6:52:41 PM
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I'm an atheist, but that doesn't excuse abject ignorance and stupidity when it comes the religions I argue against.
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epik_fail1
04/11/17 6:52:49 PM
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The Admiral posted...
epik_fail1 posted...
"if it makes us look bad, it doesn't count"

-christians.


Those Old Testament laws are superseded in Christianity by Jesus' New Covenant.

So everyone who is attacking you is right -- you're taking laws that were specifically given to Moses and the Jews during their pilgrimage through the desert 2000 years ago and pretending like they have anything to do with modern Christian beliefs.


What did Jesus say about gays?
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epik_fail1
04/11/17 6:53:51 PM
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Asherlee10 posted...
Paragon21XX posted...
meingott posted...
That's a Jewish passage, not a Christian one.

You're right, but TC won't care.


I'm not sure I understand this reasoning. The OT might be Jewish in origin, but it's still included in the Bible, which is the holy book for Christianity. If it was intended to not be used/followed, why is there?


Thank you. Finally someone get it.
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meingott
04/11/17 6:54:22 PM
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Asherlee10 posted...
Paragon21XX posted...
meingott posted...
That's a Jewish passage, not a Christian one.

You're right, but TC won't care.


I'm not sure I understand this reasoning. The OT might be Jewish in origin, but it's still included in the Bible, which is the holy book for Christianity. If it was intended to not be used/followed, why is there?


For historical purposes.
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Damn_Underscore
04/11/17 6:54:33 PM
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For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him.

That passage defines Christianity
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The Admiral
04/11/17 6:54:43 PM
#41:


epik_fail1 posted...
The Admiral posted...
epik_fail1 posted...
"if it makes us look bad, it doesn't count"

-christians.


Those Old Testament laws are superseded in Christianity by Jesus' New Covenant.

So everyone who is attacking you is right -- you're taking laws that were specifically given to Moses and the Jews during their pilgrimage through the desert 2000 years ago and pretending like they have anything to do with modern Christian beliefs.


What did Jesus say about gays?


Didn't say a single word about them.
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EbonTitanium
04/11/17 6:55:04 PM
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Asherlee10 posted...
Paragon21XX posted...
meingott posted...
That's a Jewish passage, not a Christian one.

You're right, but TC won't care.


I'm not sure I understand this reasoning. The OT might be Jewish in origin, but it's still included in the Bible, which is the holy book for Christianity. If it was intended to not be used/followed, why is there?

Because Jesus.
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Forlorn_Ass
04/11/17 6:55:59 PM
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Jesus said the Old Testament doesn't matter
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MakoReizei
04/11/17 6:56:06 PM
#44:


monkmith posted...
MakoReizei posted...
epik_fail1 posted...
meingott posted...
epik_fail1 posted...
"if it makes us look bad, it doesn't count"

-christians.


It's literally a Jewish text.


So... christians didn't exist before the new testament.

wouldn't make much sense for Christians to exist before Jesus did

lol I knew he was going to bring up gays.

christ is in the name after all...

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epik_fail1
04/11/17 6:56:29 PM
#45:


The Admiral posted...
epik_fail1 posted...
The Admiral posted...
epik_fail1 posted...
"if it makes us look bad, it doesn't count"

-christians.


Those Old Testament laws are superseded in Christianity by Jesus' New Covenant.

So everyone who is attacking you is right -- you're taking laws that were specifically given to Moses and the Jews during their pilgrimage through the desert 2000 years ago and pretending like they have anything to do with modern Christian beliefs.


What did Jesus say about gays?


Didn't say a single word about them.


I know, but why do the old testament count when it comes to gay, but not for the other thing?
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KeyBlade999
04/11/17 6:56:49 PM
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The Admiral posted...
Those Old Testament laws are superseded in Christianity by Jesus' New Covenant.

So everyone who is attacking you is right -- you're taking laws that were specifically given to Moses and the Jews during their pilgrimage through the desert 2000 years ago and pretending like they have anything to do with modern Christian beliefs.

Meh, the ironic thing is that most Christians - in my experience anyhow - nitpick parts of the Old Testament and assume it is law, e.g. the passages prohibiting homosexuality.

Though ironically ignoring the other passages that prohibit, for example, eating pork.

Not that I don't agree with you, Admiral - but it's funny how most Christians I've seen use the Bible incorrectly and then incompletely. >_>
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Terra-enforcer
04/11/17 6:57:21 PM
#47:


epik_fail1 posted...
"if it makes us look bad, it doesn't count"

-christians.

Damn, imagine putting so much effort into trashing something you know so little about. Grow up man. I don't even know where to begin how wrong your logic is.
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EbonTitanium
04/11/17 6:58:16 PM
#48:


KeyBlade999 posted...
The Admiral posted...
Those Old Testament laws are superseded in Christianity by Jesus' New Covenant.

So everyone who is attacking you is right -- you're taking laws that were specifically given to Moses and the Jews during their pilgrimage through the desert 2000 years ago and pretending like they have anything to do with modern Christian beliefs.

Meh, the ironic thing is that most Christians - in my experience anyhow - nitpick parts of the Old Testament and assume it is law, e.g. the passages prohibiting homosexuality.

Though ironically ignoring the other passages that prohibit, for example, eating pork.

Not that I don't agree with you, Admiral - but it's funny how most Christians I've seen use the Bible incorrectly and then incompletely. >_>

The pork thing is for Jews, not Gentiles.
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KeyBlade999
04/11/17 6:58:23 PM
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epik_fail1 posted...
I know, but why do the old testament count when it comes to gay, but not for the other thing?

Because of several reasons, depending on the situation:

- They're just outright hypocrites.

- They misunderstand why the Old Testament and New Testament are different.

- They seek any justification to do the evil bullshit they do, and what greater justification is there than pulling the God card? (Provided it's right - which it isn't in this context but I digress.)
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The Admiral
04/11/17 6:58:49 PM
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epik_fail1 posted...
I know, but why do the old testament count when it comes to gay, but not for the other thing?


People using the Old Testament to push homophobia, like WBC, are misusing it. The Bible does not support mistreatment of gays, unlike the texts of other religions.

Where the Bible is relevant to this topic, however, is that it defines the sacrament of Matrimony as specifically between a man and a woman. This is why Christians are generally against gay marriage, but aren't going so far as supporting throwing gays off buildings like certain other religions encourage.
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epik_fail1
04/11/17 7:00:23 PM
#51:


Terra-enforcer posted...
epik_fail1 posted...
"if it makes us look bad, it doesn't count"

-christians.

Damn, imagine putting so much effort into trashing something you know so little about. Grow up man. I don't even know where to begin how wrong your logic is.


Why do so many famous christians cite the old testament?
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