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Topic	Here is why I think Christianity is a bad ideology
Saloonist 04/12/17 5:54:27 PM #137:	darkphoenix181 posted... Saloonist posted... darkphoenix181 posted... Saloonist posted... A sect of Jews started Christianity, and they didnt see themselves as starting a new religion because they operated within the old one. this is 100% incorrect Jesus himself talks about fulfilling the Old Covenant, and not removing anything from it as some posted earlier. They saw themselves as a development within a tradition. Not a new religion. they are the ones who came up with the phrase New Testament and they did not operate in the old one, very early did they preach against what was called Judaizing teachers or that is people who kept the Old Law and said it was to not be done also again, these things aren't hard to understand, but people purposely delude themselves into thinking a passage says things it does not lets look at the text of not destroying the old law Matthew 5:17-20 17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. 18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. So are christians still in the old law? It hasn't passed away right? WRONG Notice: one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. What does this mean? Well in context is there anything that is fulfilling anything? OH YEAH! I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. So he came to fulfill the law, and until he was done, the practices of the Old Law would not pass away. hmm So how and when did he fulfill the Old Law? Obviously, it was when he died. That is also when surprise to no one, the New testament came into effect and people became Christians and stop sacrificing animals doing Old Testament rituals. None of that suggests that they were founding a new religion or saw it as such. The old law being fulfilled doesn't mean that it's discarded or insignificant. The New Covenant is just a development from it. The earliest Christians were Jews. They would never say they were abandoning their ancestral religion. Quite the opposite. They believed that they were more in conformity with the promises of the old religion than those who rejected Jesus could ever hope to be. --- BasileosPetros, KhanofKhans, CokeZero, and many more <cite>Saloonist posted [p:877073748] in Here is wh... [t:75226330]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkphoenix181 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Saloonist posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkphoenix181 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Saloonist posted...</cite> <quote>A sect of Jews started Christianity, and they didnt see themselves as starting a new religion because they operated within the old one.</quote> this is 100% incorrect</quote> Jesus himself talks about fulfilling the Old Covenant, and not removing anything from it as some posted earlier. They saw themselves as a development within a tradition. Not a new religion.</quote> they are the ones who came up with the phrase New Testament and they did not operate in the old one, very early did they preach against what was called Judaizing teachers or that is people who kept the Old Law and said it was to not be done also again, these things aren't hard to understand, but people purposely delude themselves into thinking a passage says things it does not lets look at the text of not destroying the old law Matthew 5:17-20 17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. 18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. So are christians still in the old law? It hasn't passed away right? WRONG Notice: one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. What does this mean? Well in context is there anything that is fulfilling anything? OH YEAH! I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. So he came to fulfill the law, and until he was done, the practices of the Old Law would not pass away. hmm So how and when did he fulfill the Old Law? Obviously, it was when he died. That is also when surprise to no one, the New testament came into effect and people became Christians and stop sacrificing animals doing Old Testament rituals.</quote> None of that suggests that they were founding a new religion or saw it as such. The old law being fulfilled doesn't mean that it's discarded or insignificant. The New Covenant is just a development from it. The earliest Christians were Jews. They would never say they were abandoning their ancestral religion. Quite the opposite. They believed that they were more in conformity with the promises of the old religion than those who rejected Jesus could ever hope to be. --- BasileosPetros, KhanofKhans, CokeZero, and many more</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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