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WhiskeyDisk posted...

Frankly, I wish all the properties would go back to Marvel so you don't have preposterous situations like a full scale alien invasion in progress over midtown Manhattan with only the Avengers there to respond despite at least 2/3 of the rest of the Marvelverse being within spitting distance yet conspicuously absent.

To be fair, Marvel getting control of all of their property back just makes that problem worse, not better.

At the moment, it makes perfect sense that the X-Men, Spider-Man, and the Fantastic Four don't respond to threats in NYC because they literally don't exist in the MCU (well, Spider-Man does now, but possibly not for long). They essentially all live in parallel universes. So the Manhattan being invaded in The Avengers is not the same Manhattan that Spider-Man is in in his first five movies, nor is it the same Manhattan the X-Men save in their first movie, or the Manhattan the Fantastic Four hang out in.

(And it's not even as if this should be a hard concept to grasp, because we all implicitly understand it's ALSO not the same Manhattan the Men in Black hang out in, or the Manhattan the Watchmen are from, or the Manhattan where Harry met Sally or when the Muppets took Manhattan. Except now I totally want Kermit and Gonzo to show up to help fight Thanos in Infinity War.)

But the more characters who are incorporated into the overarching framework (like every character who has ever been on Agents of SHIELD or all of the Netflix shows), the harder it gets to justify why every Marvel movie in the future doesn't have 400 heroes show up when a major world-threatening catastrophe happens.

In the real world, it doesn't happen because you have to PAY all of those actors. But in the setting, you're still going to need to explain what the hell the Defenders and SHIELD and whoever else are doing if they don't show up in Infinity War when Thanos is trashing everything.

So if Marvel gets Spider-Man and the Fantastic Four and the X-Men back, then they sort of NEED to incorporate them all into the narrative, whereas at the moment, they don't.

And honestly, I almost kind of prefer things they way they are now. The X-Men have ALWAYS worked better alone (in the comics as well), and trying to weave them into the Avengers universe would just devalue them and their whole universe. And while the Fantastic Four have floundered in movies, I think they'd be worse off in the Avengers universe than they would be in one that mostly just focuses on them and their family dynamic as opposed to treating them like just another bunch of superheroes.

As for Spider-Man, he's already straddling that line where Sony may be going back on the deal they made with Marvel, and they're still pushing for a separate Venom movie outside of that deal anyway, sooo...


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