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TopicReally Dr. Pepper? Really?
meisnewbie
10/15/11 9:14:00 PM
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To say that a diet "doesn't work" because people don't follow the diet is highly misleading.

It's only misleading in the sense that "doesn't work" isn't properly defined, (a sin that I wish I could repent for!) But the fact remains that people can't stay on the diet as is!

If you want to argue that "making healthy choices and exercising" is some hugely difficult thing to adhere to, that's an entirely different discussion (although you'll have a hard time convincing people that "choosing an apple over an apple pie" is some stupendous sign of strength).

If it's an easy thing, why don't more people do it then? My model has more predictive value than yours, like, you claim that Americans are lazy and weak willed, yet you don't explain why they've become more lazy and weak willed. Hell, I'm going to deny you the information when the obesity epidemic started so you can put yourself out there and claim a time period over which we become weak and decrepit.

Actually, no, these are not healthy alternatives to lose weight. But you know this already.

Also false! In part. Regular 16 hour fasts are not unhealthy alternatives to weightloss and can be stated in fewer lines than your guidelines. This isn't even including taking in all food in liquid form through a straw or diets which have higher adherence rates but just define "healthy" differently than you

Seriously though, it's not difficult to find out a) how many calories are burned in a typical, non-intensive day, b) how many calories you burn during exercise, and c) how many calories are in the food you eat. Just chalk up a quick balance sheet.

Except that if I were to believe what google tells it logically follows that 1) Any person's meal plan is a meticulously measured regime or an exact series of coincidences which just happened to match up to your current metabolism. People would gain or lose 15lbdepending on whether they eat or abstain from one mouthful of food each day, and there is zero evidence that any biological mechanism can achieve that degree of accuracy in measurement. 2) It can't even tell you what a typical, non-intensive day for each person is. What happens when you walk to work? Commute? Drive? Take the stairs? etc. It's too vague to predict anything about anyone. 3) ...It doesn't even chart how much calories you burn during exercise properly. Seriously, how do you think they measure that? Can you honestly claim that an obese person cycling or swimming burns anywhere near the same calories as a slim woman burns during the same time period? 4) How the hell do you think they measure they measure calories in food? They burn it in a chamber. Which is obviously identical to how a human body processes any and all calories.

No, what I mean to say is the following: take the typical American diet, remove the majority of high-fat/high-sugar options and replace it with healthier (yet still convenient) options, and I guarantee that obesity will drop dramatically. "High carb and low fat" isn't what I'm getting at

I agree with this, although the specifics of "high-fat/high sugar" I will need to know in depth before committing to a position.

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