I was contradicting Ulti in another topic about a half hour or so ago and now I'm in this topic, also one that Ulti is involved but this time on his side because he seems strongly against SmartMuffin whose arguments I've only skimmed over but f*** it he's SmartMuffin.
The only true conclusion I've come to is that board 8 is lots of fun
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RIP Caelus, 8/1/01-2/28/11
The old account had to be retired :D