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TopicLong Past Dinner! Umineko Discussion Continues! *spoilers 1-7*
Mega Mana
08/27/11 11:14:00 AM
#82:


Select passages from re-reading those portions after Will's "Earth to Earth" proclamation:


Jumping in time towards the mansion deaths. Assuming Kyrie is the culprit, hooooooly crap.
#1 - She tells Krauss to stay put. He is the Ushiromiya head, after all.
#2 - Rudolf: "I think Kyrie and I, and Hideyoshi-san as well, should go." Wolf and sheep puzzle. Move the raft over with two wolves and one sheep.
#3 - Rudolf: "When I went to check on Rosa and Maria-chan, I was the only one holding a gun." ****, I need to check this out. Since they didn't die by gunshot, was Kyrie there?

- Both George and Nanjo seem shaken by Kyrie's argument towards the servant murders as a hoax... I think I get it now... Kyrie and Rudolf are aware of the Ushiromiya heir and are working to get the gold for themselves.
- "However, I would never mistake whether they were alive or dead." Clearly, they lived!

- Damn! Look at this skilled conversation steering! "This is just for peace of mind, but... at the time we think Rosa-san was attacked outside, where was everyone?"
- At the time they think... Natsuhi, Krauss, Rudolf, and Kyrie in the guest house and their alibis are guaranteed, Eva and Hideysohi were together, George, Jessica, and Battler were together, Nanjo alone.

1. Rudolf suggesting sedative pills. Rosa opens the bottle but it is empty.
- Hmm Maria really wants to see her rose, but she's got her Beatrice face on. Now I feel like flipping back to see what happened before Maria went to sleep... kihihi. A manipulation.
- What's this?

"[Hideyoshi] didn't notice that Rosa and Maria were going outside through the front door at all.
In that case, there was no way that the others in the lobby, which was even further away, would notice. And the cousins' room on the second story was even worse...!"

- Game five again. Erika, Gohda, and Nanjo in the lobby. Erika says she would be aware of anyone who entered or exited through the front door. Battler says there's no way they would notice. Would they notice though? Also, it's Rudolf and Kyrie's time on lookout and Natsuhi and Krauss are slated for naptime... fffffffffff...

Actual #1. Rudolf saying now is the best time to go to the mansion because it'll only get darker out. 'Now is the most convenient time.'
Actual #2. Only about an hour has passed since Rosa-san was attacked. Leading the conversation. Also, times don't match up to the clocks. 10:30 - Rosa and Maria face Evatrice. 11:00 - Rudolf discovers Rosa and Maria are missing and goes off 'alone' to find them. 1:00 - This conversation apparently takes place. So either episodes end at their scheduled time, the two hours is completely off, or Rudolf is lying/telling his truth/has no sense of time. Or maybe they changed the clocks? Nah...
- No big hints after. And now... not sure if I should trust what's to come. So I'll go back to game seven. Even if this part is so incredibly awesome.

- Battler, Eva, George, and Nanjo found the corpses. Jessica, Krauss, and Natsuhi remain at the gueshouse. Does Jessica's blindness have something to do with how Krauss and Natsuhi die?Virgilia again tells it without seeing the reactions.
- RONOVE DECLINES FROM REPEATING THAT THREE OF THEM ARE DEAD IN RED. What about earth to earth?
- Ronove's excuse is that he shouldn't speak in red in his lady's place. lolol
- No declaration or truth is made upon Beatrice's return, nor is there a call for one.


Also:
- Haaaaaa! Nice wordplay! Kanon: "For Kanon, the chapel. Now that he's dead, let him continue to protect the place important to the Lord." Well done! Well done!


Also, if we look at the magical storytelling... Kyrie's power of envy is like 9999999999. She could've battled through a fatal wound and massive bleeding for as long as possible to take her revenge. Her murders stopped when Eva killed Battler.
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