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TopicLong Past Dinner! Umineko Discussion Continues! *spoilers 1-7*
Mega Mana
08/26/11 12:09:00 PM
#28:


Imma throw this out there because I've been playing around it. Episode Six is obviously on my mind.

Looking back over pages three through five of my playthrough topic covering episode six and the beginning of seven, and knowing now about the ShKanon revelation...

I'm still dissatisfied with the ending of Episode Six.

And looking over my notes, my reaction, and the commentary that followed... I understand why it took so long to try and figure things out.

There was nothing to figure out.

I ended Game Six with a plausible theory with not only how Battler could get out by himself, but also how Kanon could have gotten him out without being in the room all while not breaking any red truth AND with nothing to do regarding the "Kanon turns into a different person when he's in the closet" mess. Explaining how Kanon got out of his room? No idea, but I was never counting on someone to save Battler's ass. Battler could have saved himself and that's why I was frustrated with new red truths and all your reactions about how I didn't get why it was so good.

I saw an alternate path for the trick to take, I saw an easier, more satisfying way for the bunny to be pulled out of the hat. Kanon saving Battler and changing personalities in the closet is cutting cheese into eight parts with three slices. It's cool if that's all you can see, but when you can figure out it can be cut with one slice before it becomes a problem (and still be cut with one slice under all the new truths added), it's just disappointing.

My mind didn't blow when Kanon wasn't in the closet. If Battler could leave the room on his own, so could Kanon. His absence was just an absence. When it turns out Kanon was Shannon and that the red truth just playing more name games, it was a bit disheartening. I get that the Chiru episodes are made to help us understand the mysteries of 1-4. I get that this particular closed room, as well as Hideyoshi's in episode 5, were meant to show how the episode one second twilight was solved as well as any playing dead scenarios. I understand that it was set-up to show that Shannon and Kanon were the same person. As a storytelling device for other episodes, it was cool.

But on its own in the mystery element, it sucked.

I understand I make some stupid theories sometimes. I can understand why my harping on Erika's use of seals (or lack thereof neener neener) in episode 5 was criticized. I get that my regular confusion towards Nanjo's death cuts a lot of my competence in your eyes. And I tend to joke around with stuff, sometimes pushing it to the limit and never giving it up.

But I think what frustrates me most is that no one refuted or even debated my theory. I looked at all the reactions to the end of the game and it's all reactions to my reaction.

"How did you think it was dull?"
"You didn't rage like myself and Hag raged!"
"Anything I should do, try and solve, or know by now before going in to Episode 7?

Just go on to EP7. You can try and solve the final closed room (the key to Beato's heart), but since the answer didn't occur to you before the closed room was even complete, it will probably just be exceedingly frustrating to you."
"I...uh....okay let me put it this way. How do you think that Kanon disappeared from that room?"

I realize that my time spent searching for an alternate solution, though clearly off the mark because lol Shannon is Kanon, was wasted. Instead of trying to figure out a new solution because everyone said I was wrong, I should've asked whether anyone understood why I was disappointed.

Please. Go back and read my Episode Six thoughts and tell me what I laid out wasn't a plausible way to cut the cheese in one slice instead of three slices. Whether it be praise for a valid solution or a giant hole broken through it so I can put it to rest, I would be most grateful. And I'd love to have more Umineko discussion with all of you.
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