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Ferarri619 posted...

I think you're probably right, but I also think here's this narrative being pushed around that if Putin takes Ukraine, it's the equivalent of letting Hitler take France and that Putin will expand like Hitler did.

Agreed that's a false narrative. If Putin ever touches a NATO country it IS WW3...so that won't happen. Putin is an old-style monarch who wants to dominant the countries surrounding him; he knows the world isn't possible.

Yellow posted...

Wars have started over less... the invasion of a US ally is not a bad start.

Right, but many (most?) wars are started for bad reasons. There are two things countries need to consider when starting a war. One, is there a good reason? Invasion of an ally is better reason than usual. Two, what is the likely outcome? Not good: it's on Russia's doorstep and the US isn't in an good political situation to sustain a deadly war without a direct threat to us. The US has not been thinking through #2 in the past couple decades.

Zeus posted...

Apparently diplomacy is never the answer, and any attempt at normalizing relations with another super-power is "sucking up"

Obama tried diplomacy directly in his first few years and got a couple treaties signed. Trump...talked about Putin positively. That's not diplomacy. And this can't be discussed without bringing up the election interference.

Zeus posted...

Especially since, as you note, nobody is going to start anything huge over Ukraine.

I agree with you on this one. Unfortunately for...

fishy071 posted...

I already know I won't live long, so I'm ready for death. I'm just afraid the death will be painful. However, I don't think many people are ready for death and annihilation.

Do you live in Ukraine? Maybe even in the army? Godspeed/good luck. You're stuck in a terrible situation: the best to you and yours.