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Zeus posted...

esus was executed for civil disobedience, and surrendered peacefully -- discouraging his followers from fighting -- whereas the Floyd case started with him resisting arrest (well, after he'd tried to pass a counterfeit bill, which Jesus also never did). Jesus was effectively executed for protesting. And, again, Jesus didn't assault women, he didn't break into peoples' homes to rob them at gunpoint (or swordpoint or bowpoint), since guns weren't around) iirc in front of their child, he wasn't abusing drugs let alone abusing them up until the end of his life.

And Jesus wasn't found with enough painkillers to warrant a drug trafficking charge yet let go.

And yet - according to contemporary laws - Jesus deserved to be executed, whereas Floyd did not. How odd.

Zeus posted...

I know you hate Christianity, Christians, and most religions

You keep saying this, but I really don't know what gives you that impression.

Unbridled9 posted...

Officially he broke no 'laws' beyond stuff like hearsay and it was more of vengeful priests and rabbi's who were having their power base threatened that wanted him done away with.

In a sense, that has sort of happened with Floyd. There are many who are glad that he's dead, who see that as what should have happened and a reflection of how the power balance ought to be. Those who think he shouldn't have been killed, on the other hand, are challenging and threatening the power that police hold by seeking greater accountability and distribution of responsibilities.

Of course, that movement existed before Floyd and was not in any way driven or inspired by him in life. He just happened to be the last straw in a long-standing problem, meaning that analogy is more than a little contrived. Nevertheless, you can draw some parallels between the overall situations. If you get away from the outrage over "the mural is saying Floyd is Jesus!" and instead think about it in terms of "Floyd's death was like Jesus' in that it has brought great things to the world, and we should honour and uphold those things so that his mother's sorrow was not in vain," it makes enough sense.

Unbridled9 posted...

It's both stupid and ignorant to claim that they're even remotely comparable.

In general, I'd agree, but I have to fall back on the comment I usually fall back on: If you don't want somebody to be turned into a martyr, don't martyr them. Martyrdom has a habit of convincing people to look past whatever bad things you can say about a person and instead treat them as a champion of whatever cause they ended up dying for (however inadvertently). Floyd has become a symbol of the BLM movement, like it or not. That's going to be his legacy, regardless of whether or not he was a good person in life.

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