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Topic	It seems a bunch of people in the military don't mind leaving due to the vaccine
ParanoidObsessive 10/18/21 9:06:54 PM #22:	DirtBasedSoap posted... if they want to be idiots and deny medical science they can get the fuck out of the profession This has been my stance since a lot of the backlash started and they mentioned hospital staff objecting to mandates. Aside from what it says about their knowledge of the field they're supposed to be part of, if someone has a much higher chance of suffering from/transmitting a virulent respiratory disease I sure as fuck don't want them treating me. Especially when I could be there for reasons that mean my own immune system is compromised in some way. So much so that if they eventually do cave on this and walk back vaccination mandates for health care workers, I think it should also be automatically added to the list of patient's rights that any patient can categorically object to being treated or administered to by any staff that refuse to be vaccinated. Leave the front-facing work to people responsible enough to handle it, and the unvaccinated RNs can clean test tubes and bedpans in the background. LinkPizza posted... And they also say they have no problem leaving the military if they cant get exempt... Zeus posted... And we've gone from people shooting themselves in the foot to try to get out to now just people avoiding getting a shot >_> I'd be curious to see if their stance would change if leaving the military over refusal to be vaccinated was made a dishonorable discharge offense. A sort of "Fine, go, but enjoy forfeiting all of your veteran benefits" scenario. It feels like a lot of people might jump on this as an excuse to get out the door mainly because they feel like they can piggyback off a hot-button issue and claim it's about "principles", because they know they won't face any real punitive blowback from it. But it might be a different story if they suddenly realized there are actually consequences to the choices and decisions you make in life. Though to be honest, I feel like anyone who refuses to be vaccinated in general (assuming they don't have valid medical reasons to justify it) should potentially face some form of punitive response (even if that's just denial of certain benefits or services, rather than an actual fine). Providing incentives only goes so far, providing disincentives can go farther. I mean, we already live in a world where people were fine with the government assessing tax penalties to anyone who couldn't be bothered to get health insurance (as a goad to encourage people to get health insurance), and I consider vaccination to be significantly more important than that. Let's see a "Vaccination Tax" get added to "offset the added economic burden of non-vaccination". --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family <cite>ParanoidObsessive posted [p:959170760] in It seems a... [t:79716006]...</cite> <quote><cite>DirtBasedSoap posted...</cite> <quote>if they want to be idiots and deny medical science they can get the fuck out of the profession</quote> This has been my stance since a lot of the backlash started and they mentioned hospital staff objecting to mandates. Aside from what it says about their knowledge of the field they're supposed to be part of, if someone has a much higher chance of suffering from/transmitting a virulent respiratory disease I sure as fuck don't want them treating me. Especially when I could be there for reasons that mean my own immune system is compromised in some way. So much so that if they eventually do cave on this and walk back vaccination mandates for health care workers, I think it should also be automatically added to the list of patient's rights that any patient can categorically object to being treated or administered to by any staff that refuse to be vaccinated. Leave the front-facing work to people responsible enough to handle it, and the unvaccinated RNs can clean test tubes and bedpans in the background. <cite>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote>And they also say they have no problem leaving the military if they cant get exempt...</quote> <cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote>And we've gone from people shooting themselves in the foot to try to get out to now just people avoiding getting a shot >_> </quote> I'd be curious to see if their stance would change if leaving the military over refusal to be vaccinated was made a dishonorable discharge offense. A sort of "Fine, go, but enjoy forfeiting all of your veteran benefits" scenario. It feels like a lot of people might jump on this as an excuse to get out the door mainly because they feel like they can piggyback off a hot-button issue and claim it's about "principles", because they know they won't face any real punitive blowback from it. But it might be a different story if they suddenly realized there are actually consequences to the choices and decisions you make in life. Though to be honest, I feel like anyone who refuses to be vaccinated in general (assuming they don't have valid medical reasons to justify it) should potentially face some form of punitive response (even if that's just denial of certain benefits or services, rather than an actual fine). Providing incentives only goes so far, providing disincentives can go farther. I mean, we already live in a world where people were fine with the government assessing tax penalties to anyone who couldn't be bothered to get health insurance (as a goad to encourage people to get health insurance), and I consider vaccination to be significantly more important than that. Let's see a "Vaccination Tax" get added to "offset the added economic burden of non-vaccination". --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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