LogFAQs > #957700571

MrMallard posted...

My bad. But my criticisms of the Satanic Temple remain. Doug Mesner (Lucien Greaves) and "Malcolm Jarry" are still cons, and the organisation is still SLAPP-happy and legally ineffective.

Again, I don't trust them as far as I can throw them. For the sake of women's reproductive rights, I hope this succeeds. But I'll express right now that I don't have faith in this organisation, and I don't think this will go anywhere because they suck in court. Not just in the "we need to get this to the supreme court!" way, but in a "mishandles legal documents in a way that fucks them in the ass" way and a "sue former members for misrepresenting us in an uneven and hypocritical fashion" way.

Like as someone who's interested in satanism, I think it's important to question institutions. A great part of satanism is having a duty to yourself as well as to others, and a part of that is questioning power structures and institutions. I cannot, in good conscience, take the Satanic Temple at their word as an organisation given their legal fuckups and their SLAPP suits. The philosophy is sound, the institution isn't. At least, that's my opinion on it.

I should note I wasn't disagreeing with your assessment of the institution, just that distinguishing between the two is important.

As an anarchist, I'm deeply skeptical of institutions like this anyway; I see a huge red flag in the fact that Lucian Greaves is propped up as a figurehead for the organization. There was a big deal about the LA chapter withdrawing from the organization after Lucian hired Alex Jones's lawyer in a Twitter lawsuit, which implies to me that the chapters don't come together as a whole to democratically vote on these kinds of actions.

The tenets are agreeable, but the execution is suspect as shit imo.

---

A hunter is a hunter...even in a dream