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TopicWho is to blame for the failures of the Star Wars sequel trilogy?
TommyG663513
08/07/21 8:58:31 PM
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DarkRoast posted...
The fact that you can actually sense the animosity between Abrams and Johnson in the openings of the second and third films is really indicative of the problems those films had.

Johnson was told he could do whatever he wanted, which I guess would've been fine had it been the first (or last) film of the trilogy, but TLJ opens with Luke metaphorically (and in a way, quite literally) throwing away the previous film's intentions. Then the rest of the film is a sort-of critique on the tropes of Star Wars with a vague sense that maybe it's time to accept that the Rebellion and the Empire/First Order are just decaying remnants of an unnecessary and stupid cyclical conflict, fought for reasons nobody even cares about anymore.

I didn't like the film, but I did appreciate the general theme created with stuff like "your parents don't actually matter, Luke is a tired relic of a stupid conflict, Snoke is just another moron who got too overconfident" etc. It seemingly sets up the third film for a flat-out rejection of Jedi/Sith and this senseless dichotomy.

And then the third film turns around and goes "no actually your parents do matter, the Jedi are good and the Sith are bad, we need the Rebellion and the Empire is evil, fight fight fight lol also Finn can use the Force for some reason. Now let's rehash every trope regarding bad guys turning good, a fucking knife shaped like the Death Star (what) and destiny and whatever. Also yay Skywalker?"

It was so weird.

@DarkRoast

Damn this was a really good post. Really sums up the contradictory themes of these two films very well. Well said.

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