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16nd
Game: Mega Man 9 *Remix
Title: Tornadoman Stage [Integer Spin Mix]
Composer: Ippo Yamada, Jake Kaufman
Nominator: @Place
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubU-Iq4PKn0

REMEMBER TO SAY "info from place: oh virt's gone on record saying that his favorite thing that he's ever made is the chiptuned rockman cover of tornado man's stage". i also remember you saying something like that virt claimed that he was struggling half asleep one night and woke up and then suddenly this song just seemed to exist out of thin air with almost no (if any) memory of making it. I relate to this experience a lot: it's EXACTLY how my creative process is in almost anything i do. and i basically can't function in any category of work that requires you to do something that's other than something you build up by habit/practice---like i wouldn't be able to play instruments or write music, if i didn't have this "comnpletely detached from my own body but then music magically appears somehow and i have no memory of writing it" disassociative way of experiencing a creative process. so i find it kinda validating to know that someone as big as virt has similar experience, because i don't hear that sort of thing talked about very often and i often feel alienated by not really knowing about anyone who experiences this,, since it can actually be very limiting on "which categories of things i'm able to attain skills in" and can and has catalyzed social ostricization in my experiences with others. when i can't do things that they can because they can actually do things with their body and consciousness attached to the things they are doing. so i am very glad that virt is a crazy person just like me(he is relatable to me in a number of ways other than just this, and i've always found him an inspiration in that sense)

this song was hard to place in a few ways; for one, i'm actually not a fan of the original tornadoman stage at all (tho loving this remix may have helped me retroactively find a bit more appreciation for it). but...i think if you're going for this exact style of "taking a random song and then half the song is random manic prog stuff that has nothing to do with the original song" it doesn't really matter what the original track being remixed sounds like hahaha. and it almost creates,,,,,honestly the same thing you've talked about with animorphs or that duelin' firemen medley; it's like an ai generated picture where i can't tell where the parts that "tornadoman stage" or "integer spin mix" start or end, but it extremely obviously contains the plain original, and totally wild extremes that have absolutely nothing to do with it, in these weird dreamlike stream-of-consciousness seamless morphing ways.

i could go on about "music theory things" i like here or "good use of the soundchip" things i like here, they're plentiful! the most obvious is a word you probably hear me say a lot way too often in these high ranking songs (this will continue)---QUARTALS. that is a thing virt likes to do a lot, heard all over the contra 4 ost especially:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdI1POJGGPI

I LOVE THOSE SORTS OF NOTEs; i mean there's all sorts of ways to be atonal, but quartals have a particular quality to them that i think makes them versatile and deeply integrated with my ideal sense of tonality in a way other forms of post-tonal stuff are not......like. compare and contrast the following things:
- whole tone scale; you are STUCK in these SIX NOTES only C D E F# G# A# lol WHY would you do that; imagine trying to write an entire song using only those 6 notes, that would be ridiculous.
- augmented (C / E / G#) in 12edo this sounds wayyy too fucking dissonant as an interval and not even in a fun way; i can think of songs where i like it, but it's still a trap, if you go thru this cycle of notes, you get right back where you start after only 3 pitch classes have played. even worse than only having 6 notes to work with
- and diminished (C Eb F# A) basically same shit as augmented; stuck in a loop of 4 notes unless you transpose

but QUARTALS' QUARTALS ARE PERFECT. when you go thru a loop of THAT interval, you get C F Bb Eb Ab Db F# B E A D G C F B---- wait; this just loopse INFINITELY. you get EVERY note in 12 edo if you go up in this interval?!!??! WTF/ THATS CHEATING. that means, that if you do ANYTHING in a quartal arpeggio, that EVERY NOTE IS INSTANTLY FAIR GAME IN A WAY THAT CAN EASILYT SOUND COSONANT; HOLY FUCVKY%a. This is the most crazy "open" experience you can get . like you can see why Wendy Carlos Tron and MegaMan Battle Network are so fuill of this interval loop. It's like the inside a computer notes. You are in the VAST INFINITE POSSIBILITY OF CYBER SPACE; you are in INFINITE possibilities. other types of atonal...serialism and aug/dim-heavy impressionist stuff can be pretty great. and i love whole tone scale (trust me, you would never imagine how much i love whole tone scale. you could even say i'm a whole tone ambassador), but those things are great more in a "i like pain" way. quartals are way different

there's a reason i overuse this word (quartal). It's my favorite notes a song can be drowning in, and like OH MY GOD you have no idea how obsessed i am with the idea of drowning in quartals. I memorized every location in sonic shuffle where you can drown in quartals in the music;(tails drowning2)/ i hope that when i die that it is through "drowning in quartal s'

this song honestly sounds like you are drowning because it like "breaks" so many times, it sounds like water; glitches, reality distortion, you are not in kansas anymore because your house got picked up by a tornado. something like that. the world is different now that you have been swept up in an involuntary experience that has upended your life through a scenario of unanticipatable outcome . 2:59 is so funny; it's like a video game joke, but it's part of a synth solo. I love that idea, jake kaufman is a genius. of whirlwind

these constant 16ths quartal spams are just so much like the inside of a computer...i can't follow them, i just feel these furious punches of electricity zapping me and i'm trying to powert throug how much that hurts while i am going through the futuristic wire tube filled with lightning (That's not how electricity works)