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Topic''We're shitty people, Joel. It's been that way for a long time.''
2SweetforTurtle
07/23/21 7:18:11 AM
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NullAndVoidFC posted...
So is it hypothetical to say she would be lucky to get to 30 in the Last of Us world? Chances are, a teenage girl isn't seeing 30. That's not hypothetical, it's playing the odds.

No, what Im saying is that youre calling me questioning the Fireflies ability to find a cure, mass produce it, distribute it, and not use it for personal gain, a hypothetical. Yet you turn around and start acting like its a given that Ellie isnt going to make it to 30 without torture and rape. Like do you not see the irony here? Me doubting the Fireflies isnt me shitting out a hypothetical, its me simply being rational, just as you claiming Ellie wont make it to 30. But if mine was hypothetical because its an unknown, then yours is too.

NullAndVoidFC posted...
If your argument is well in a lawless society where hundreds of millions have died of a zombie plague, the people that hold the cure might exploit that for power or gain... well yeah, but it's the lesser of two evils, and if you can't accept that you're basically saying the world is too fucked and everyone might as well just kill themselves because at some point you're going to rub up against the wrong end of a group exploiting their power advantage or the flesh eating zombies.

The world is too fucked. Thats the whole point of the game. Its called the Last of Us, not the Middle of Us or some shit. The entire idea that the Fireflies had was bullshit and 100% illogical and improbable, on top of the fact that they were terrorist and trying to hide the fact that Ellie was going to die from her and from her chaperone.

The Fireflies were never going to be able to actually create, produce, and distribute a cure, much less do so in a remotely appropriate manner. They wanted to sacrifice someone without their consent on a question. Joel did the right thing without question. You cannot trust the organization, you cannot trust the odds, and you cannot trust that humanity wouldve even taken it, not after youve seen and done the things Joel had seen and done.

Joel was a bad person. Thats a fact. Can you trust the Fireflies? No. Thats a fact. Can you trust humanity by this point? Of course not. This game is meant to be the end. The time for stopping the outbreak was 20 years prior.

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