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Topic	Literally all 50 Portland riot police officers resign
Zeus 06/18/21 4:12:28 PM #25:	Portland has apparently already decided that it doesn't need police https://www.kgw.com/article/news/local/protests/defunding-portland-police-city-council-budget-15-million-cuts/283-239c5e3a-cfed-4dce-8775-d2c52a9df9aa If 75% of Portland actually wants its police (as polling has shown), they need to step up against the radical elements and to vote out the politicians kowtowing to those elements. Otherwise they can let Portland become an experimental city to see if things can manage without a real police presence. adjl posted... No, we don't need police reform at all! The fact that this entire squad is effectively going on strike over one of their members being charged (not even convicted) with using illegal force does not in any way indicate that there's a serious large-scale problem with covering up incidents and avoiding accountability for officers that overstep boundaries that need to be in place! ...for riot police to be effective, they have to be able to police riots. When you arrest them for doing their job, it's understandable that people aren't going to want to do that job. Rather than police reform, we need governmental reform to limit how much harm politicians can do their area at any given time. adjl posted... Charge the lot of them with some manner of conspiracy or corruption, I'd say. Jeopardizing public safety for the sake of supporting a colleague suspected of committing a crime should not be tolerated. Literally crying pretend-fascism while proposing literal fascism. adjl posted... Emergency services are rarely allowed full freedom to take job action due to the potential for disastrous consequences if their roles aren't filled. You say that, but when's the last time charges were brought against 911 dispatchers who decided to drop a call or conveyed bad information? We've seen dispatchers literally drop emergency calls because they didn't "feel like dealing with them right now" where punishments ranged from reprimand to termination rather than prison time. Clearly there's no real standard in place for emergency roles, even though in some of those cases there WERE disastrous consequences. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:955175798] in Literally ... [t:79520766]...</cite> <quote>Portland has apparently already decided that it doesn't need police https://www.kgw.com/article/news/local/protests/defunding-portland-police-city-council-budget-15-million-cuts/283-239c5e3a-cfed-4dce-8775-d2c52a9df9aa If 75% of Portland actually wants its police (as polling has shown), they need to step up against the radical elements and to vote out the politicians kowtowing to those elements. Otherwise they can let Portland become an experimental city to see if things can manage without a real police presence. adjl posted... </cite> <quote>No, we don't need police reform at all! The fact that this entire squad is effectively going on strike over one of their members being charged (not even convicted) with using illegal force does not in any way indicate that there's a serious large-scale problem with covering up incidents and avoiding accountability for officers that overstep boundaries that need to be in place!</quote> ...for riot police to be effective, they have to be able to police riots. When you arrest them for doing their job, it's understandable that people aren't going to want to do that job. Rather than police reform, we need governmental reform to limit how much harm politicians can do their area at any given time. adjl posted... </cite> <quote>Charge the lot of them with some manner of conspiracy or corruption, I'd say. Jeopardizing public safety for the sake of supporting a colleague suspected of committing a crime should not be tolerated.</quote> Literally crying pretend-fascism while proposing literal fascism. adjl posted... </cite> <quote>Emergency services are rarely allowed full freedom to take job action due to the potential for disastrous consequences if their roles aren't filled.</quote> You say that, but when's the last time charges were brought against 911 dispatchers who decided to drop a call or conveyed bad information? We've seen dispatchers literally drop emergency calls because they didn't "feel like dealing with them right now" where punishments ranged from reprimand to termination rather than prison time. Clearly there's no real standard in place for emergency roles, even though in some of those cases there WERE disastrous consequences. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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