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TopicSo I'm just now finding out about the Vinny Vinesauce situation
MrMallard
05/13/21 9:58:15 PM
#5:


My take on it is that I'm disappointed if he's slept with fans, which I do believe he's done, but I think the document was stitched together in a way to make him look as bad as possible. There's an audio recording where the person getting the calls disguises their voice for privacy, but there's allegedly proof that the audio file has been edited more substantially than disguising the person's voice.

I heard rumblings of Vinny sleeping with fans back in January - the first wave of that coincided with a webcomic creator getting called out for abuse, so the first week of 2021 was really fucking stressful since I had to come to terms with two content creators I liked disappointing me. I still think it's feasible that Vinny slept with fans - legal fans, sure, but it's still not ethical and I'm still disappointed.

But the document dropped in March some time, and by then we had allegations that he badmouthed other content creators, gave one woman HPV and was very controlling. The first accuser made a big point over him name-dropping other creators and spun that into him badmouthing that, and the most vitriolic anti-Vinny people were making it out like Vinny knowingly gave a woman HPV because he was safe the first time and not the second time - though HPV is apparently hard to diagnose in men, so I think that's not a fair argument.

I can get the allegations to a point. What I heard in January? I think it's likely. But between January and March, more charges were added to this rap sheet, and I find it hard to stay invested in the entire scope of his cancelling when it went from "Vinny fucks his female fans" to "Vinny is a manipulator and a liar, and I think he knowingly infected me with HPV". Even if the woman who got HPV didn't say that, that's what it became.

A similar thing happened with Joel being transphobic in the past, which I think he was. I still think he's a bit conservative personally, but he keeps his personal views and his streamer persona more separated nowadays. He was making really shitty jokes for years, and at no point was it really brought up until enough evidence was there to take him down. That one rubbed me the wrong way because I like to think he might have apologized if confronted beforehand? But people waited, collected it all into one place and then used it to try and take him down.

The fact of the matter is that we don't know how much of this is true. We have some anonymous accusers with some manipulative rhetoric and some tenuous inferences, and we have the video game streamer who - in my eyes - has left some compelling evidence that he chats up his female fans to fuck them. His privacy has been violated, but if some of these charges are true, then it is condemnable and it is disappointing. Though for my money's worth, the only thing I'm convinced of is that he slept with female fans. Ethically, I think that's pretty disappointing, and I don't like or support that sort of behavior. But I can see myself moving past that and watching his streams again if that's the case - it's disappointing, but it's not a deal-breaker.

But until I know what's true and what isn't about the accusations, I don't think I can make that call. I hope Vinny's okay, but I won't be able to comfortably watch his streams until the accusations are confirmed or denied.

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