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ParanoidObsessive 02/22/21 12:43:51 AM #52:	Zeus posted... Even excluding SF (which was good because of camp, so I'm fine with overlooking it... SF was an absolutely terrible movie. NO ONE liked it because it was good. We liked it because it was bad, and we enjoyed pointing at it and laughing. That's not really an indicator of quality, and definitely not what we're talking about here. Zeus posted... I always enjoyed the Double Dragon movie even though it was pretty bad) If you hadn't included the "even though it was pretty bad" part, I'd have said this statement alone invalidated every opinion you've ever had about movies ever. Though you did include it, so I'd say that just shuffles that right into the same category of "I like this because it is bad". Zeus posted... It really wasn't, or at least not on its own merits. And I'm trying to think of one MK fan I knew who wasn't let down by it. I didn't think it terrible at the time, but it was massively disappointing on almost every level. Speaking as someone who was in college when it came out, I never met a single person who had anything bad to say about it. Almost everyone who went to see it in theaters either loved it, or qualified their praise as "It was the best video game movie anyone's managed to make so far" (and honestly, there haven't been all that many made since that come close either). And a LOT of those people (probably most of them) were MK fans (I may have spent more time playing MK Trilogy in college than I did going to class). I think the most negative thing I ever heard was a few people asking why the Japanese god of thunder was played by a weird French dude. In fact, this topic may literally be the first time in my entire life when I've ever heard someone really shitting on it at all. It was popular enough at the time to make back its budget like seven times over. And the main theme song got airplay on the radio about a dozen times an hour, every hour, for around two months or so. There was a huge rush of positivity towards the franchise at the time, and a lot of that was spurred by the film. Granted, I didn't hang around with the sort of sexless nerds who spent their entire weekly allowance dumping quarters into MK arcade machines or competing in MK tournaments like it was the sole important thing in their entire lives, so I probably wasn't getting the opinions of the hardest of the hardcore fans of the franchise. But let's be honest, those people were never going to like it regardless of how good or bad it was on its own merits (like comic fans who hate literally every comic movie ever made because they're not identical to the comics - "They gave Peter Parker organic web-shooters? WORST. MOVIE. EVAR."). The real sad part is that people keep asking for video game movie adaptations, and they're almost always going to be terrible, because games keep getting bigger and more complex, game narratives keep getting more elaborate and harder to duplicate or distill into a single two-hour movie, and nerd expectations keep getting higher in general. MK hit at the right sweet spot in time and adapted a game that barely had any plot (since that was before Midway and NetherRealm overwrote the backstory into mass stupidity), so it could be translated into a movie and still mostly feel like the original game. We're probably never going to get that again (though the future for game adaptations might be jumping to streaming TV, where they can get more time to stretch plots out, so maybe they'll eventually figure out the winning formula). On the other hand, I hear some people liked Sonic and Detective Pikachu, and both made more than enough money to be considered solid successes (and already have green-lit sequels), so maybe we've all just lowered our standards now and the Uncharted movie will win an Oscar or something. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family <cite>ParanoidObsessive posted [p:950932623] in Mortal Kom... [t:79303121]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote>Even excluding SF (which was good because of camp, so I'm fine with overlooking it...</quote> SF was an absolutely terrible movie. NO ONE liked it because it was good. We liked it because it was bad, and we enjoyed pointing at it and laughing. That's not really an indicator of quality, and definitely not what we're talking about here. <cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote>I always enjoyed the Double Dragon movie even though it was pretty bad)</quote> If you hadn't included the "even though it was pretty bad" part, I'd have said this statement alone invalidated every opinion you've ever had about movies ever. Though you did include it, so I'd say that just shuffles that right into the same category of "I like this because it is bad". <cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote>It really wasn't, or at least not on its own merits. And I'm trying to think of one MK fan I knew who wasn't let down by it. I didn't think it terrible at the time, but it was massively disappointing on almost every level. </quote> Speaking as someone who was in college when it came out, I never met a single person who had anything bad to say about it. Almost everyone who went to see it in theaters either loved it, or qualified their praise as "It was the best video game movie anyone's managed to make so far" (and honestly, there haven't been all that many made since that come close either). And a LOT of those people (probably most of them) were MK fans (I may have spent more time playing MK Trilogy in college than I did going to class). I think the most negative thing I ever heard was a few people asking why the Japanese god of thunder was played by a weird French dude. In fact, this topic may literally be the first time in my entire life when I've ever heard someone really shitting on it at all. It was popular enough at the time to make back its budget like seven times over. And the main theme song got airplay on the radio about a dozen times an hour, every hour, for around two months or so. There was a huge rush of positivity towards the franchise at the time, and a lot of that was spurred by the film. Granted, I didn't hang around with the sort of sexless nerds who spent their entire weekly allowance dumping quarters into MK arcade machines or competing in MK tournaments like it was the sole important thing in their entire lives, so I probably wasn't getting the opinions of the hardest of the hardcore fans of the franchise. But let's be honest, those people were never going to like it regardless of how good or bad it was on its own merits (like comic fans who hate literally every comic movie ever made because they're not identical to the comics - "They gave Peter Parker organic web-shooters? WORST. MOVIE. EVAR."). The real sad part is that people keep asking for video game movie adaptations, and they're almost always going to be terrible, because games keep getting bigger and more complex, game narratives keep getting more elaborate and harder to duplicate or distill into a single two-hour movie, and nerd expectations keep getting higher in general. MK hit at the right sweet spot in time and adapted a game that barely had any plot (since that was before Midway and NetherRealm overwrote the backstory into mass stupidity), so it could be translated into a movie and still mostly feel like the original game. We're probably never going to get that again (though the future for game adaptations might be jumping to streaming TV, where they can get more time to stretch plots out, so maybe they'll eventually figure out the winning formula). On the other hand, I hear some people liked Sonic and Detective Pikachu, and both made more than enough money to be considered solid successes (and already have green-lit sequels), so maybe we've all just lowered our standards now and the Uncharted movie will win an Oscar or something. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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