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StealThisSheen posted...

Labor unions exist to protect employees from unfair treatment from their employers.

Police unions are literally run by the ones in charge. They are their own employers.

So who does a police union protect police from?

Us.

Police unions literally only exist for them to avoid accountability. They use their power as a union to lobby for the elected officials they want to make it so they have nobody to answer to, and that's the problem.

They have no employers they need to protect themselves from with a union, so they have zero actual need for a union. That's what makes them different.

@masterplum

Yes hello thank you Chris.

SEP has explained it pretty succinctly here, but I'll make a few other notes.

Police unions are corrupt and only protect cops from accountability at their jobs. They stack the rules in favor of the police so there is literally no accountability for their actions. They murder people and at worst they get two weeks paid vacation. The cop who kneeled on George Floyd's neck had some ridiculous number like 40 something complaints and he didn't get punished at all. They get thrown out because police unions let these terrible, dangerous, racist, reckless cops go wild with impunity.

The police union works with the police to make police contracts, and the police union is also part of the police so how is that just? They are not independent of the police administration here. And they actively spend tons of taxpayer money to actively lobby for whatever politicians will allow them to get away with whatever they want. Some ridiculous amount of money just so their favorite politician can be in office, so it pays for politicians to work with allowing police unions to do whatever they want.

So far only ONE state in the US has done anything about police unions, and it's just Washington, D.C. They make it so police unions can't include anything about punishments and investigations in their contracts, which levels the playing field. Literally no other state has even attempted to do anything like this, because they work hard to ensure there won't be a politician to enact that sort of thing.

I've said it in this topic repeatedly, but until you get rid of police unions, you can't stop systemic racism in the police force. They won't stop unfairly treating people of color until they have a reason to not do so. As it stands, they will never get punished for it, so they have no reason to follow any rules or change anything.

That's why when we have Biden going into office saying "we'll teach em to shoot em in the leg" or "we'll make em take more classes" it's worthless. He knows exactly what the problem is, and it isn't cops not being aware enough that what they're doing is bad, it's that they don't have any reason to hold back at all. They won't get punished over it. But he's not about to come out and say that and wreck the whole system.

It's a broken, abhorrent system that cannot and will not be changed without tearing the whole thing down and building it back up. It's not even close to how other unions operate. It's completely compromised.

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