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Topic	Is this how the police protect society?
AzureAnihilator 12/30/20 6:33:37 AM #55:	ShineboxPhil posted... "Boot licking" has become the new "yikes" on ce board when someone has no input to a poster that fully explains their post. They immediately jump to those two words to attempt discrediting any validation of that poster. Boot licker and yikes are both appropriate responses to anyone who would so willfully set morals aside to be right with the law. Tenlaar posted... Its not important enough to do anything about is a different argument than anything Im talking about. That could be true, though I imagine that its at least revenue neutral but likely revenue positive considering how quickly they seemed to get multiple drivers so the argument comes down to more of an I just dont think minor crimes should be policed which is hard for me to agree with. The only line in my post that pertained to you was the line about you being a boot-licker, but since you can't help but to chime in, let's look at your argument a little closer. Nowhere in my post did I say minor crimes shouldn't be policed. If you can't even form an argument without pulling strawman or just outright lying about the perspective of the people you're talking to, you're wasting everyone's time. That said, obviously minor crimes should be policed. Doing so is a deterrent to minor crimes. Obviously the importance of that can't be overstated. All that holds some people back from committing those crimes is the fear of retribution. But this scenario is different. Here, you have a working class citizen presented with a scenario where attempting to do good by their fellow man makes them a criminal. Keep in mind, in this scenario, the driver that pulls over is random. This could be someone that does things the correct way 99.9% of the time, and pulled over with good will wanting to help someone in a rough spot. The situation established by the officers (no way to access the app to help them legally) leaves them with two options. Leave those people hanging and drive away, or offer to help them off-the-books, the morally correct thing to do. Yes, it IS a crime. Is it such a serious situation that we have to involve law enforcement undercover? Does it necessitate an investigation or sting operation? It would be different if these were drivers that uber or Lyft had investigated and found to be doing something malicious, such as driving to a pickup location, then cancelling the pickup and offering the person a ride off-the-books to deliberately cut off the rideshare company and avoid paying taxes. But they aren't. They're just presumably good citizens being tricked so the dept can wring them for cash. --- Man of the People - Hero of the Hour https://imgur.com/H3MsnzZ <cite>AzureAnihilator posted [p:948910037] in Is this ho... [t:79207805]...</cite> <quote>ShineboxPhil posted... </cite> <quote>"Boot licking" has become the new "yikes" on ce board when someone has no input to a poster that fully explains their post. They immediately jump to those two words to attempt discrediting any validation of that poster.</quote>Boot licker and yikes are both appropriate responses to anyone who would so willfully set morals aside to be right with the law. Tenlaar posted... </cite> <quote>Its not important enough to do anything about is a different argument than anything Im talking about. That could be true, though I imagine that its at least revenue neutral but likely revenue positive considering how quickly they seemed to get multiple drivers so the argument comes down to more of an I just dont think minor crimes should be policed which is hard for me to agree with.</quote>The only line in my post that pertained to you was the line about you being a boot-licker, but since you can't help but to chime in, let's look at your argument a little closer. Nowhere in my post did I say minor crimes shouldn't be policed. If you can't even form an argument without pulling strawman or just outright lying about the perspective of the people you're talking to, you're wasting everyone's time. That said, obviously minor crimes should be policed. Doing so is a deterrent to minor crimes. Obviously the importance of that can't be overstated. All that holds some people back from committing those crimes is the fear of retribution. But this scenario is different. Here, you have a working class citizen presented with a scenario where attempting to do good by their fellow man makes them a criminal. Keep in mind, in this scenario, the driver that pulls over is random. This could be someone that does things the correct way 99.9% of the time, and pulled over with good will wanting to help someone in a rough spot. The situation established by the officers (no way to access the app to help them legally) leaves them with two options. Leave those people hanging and drive away, or offer to help them off-the-books, the morally correct thing to do. Yes, it IS a crime. Is it such a serious situation that we have to involve law enforcement undercover? Does it necessitate an investigation or sting operation? It would be different if these were drivers that uber or Lyft had investigated and found to be doing something malicious, such as driving to a pickup location, then cancelling the pickup and offering the person a ride off-the-books to deliberately cut off the rideshare company and avoid paying taxes. But they aren't. They're just presumably good citizens being tricked so the dept can wring them for cash. --- Man of the People - Hero of the Hour https://imgur.com/H3MsnzZ</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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