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dud posted...

Thanks for agreeing that it's a non-livable wage, and confirming that you think people need to overwork themselves and hope that vague promises will be fulfilled at some unknown time before they can be paid the means for basic functioning

Well, considering you can live on it, technically it's a living wage. It's just not a comfortable wage although, if you put the *tiniest* amount of effort in it then it could become one, which is what I was really driving at.

dud posted...

I didn't slack off lol read it again. I said if I was resigned to that being a permanent thing I would probably have not given a shit, implying I did try to actually do everything right instead. And it was food service, not retail, but I didn't make that clear and pretty much same thing in the context of this convo.

...and yet you still disagree with my assessment. Countless people in retail, food service, etc, are you like you were: they know (or think) it's temporary, so they don't give a shit and they phone it in. And while you bring up nonsense like increasing wages, you yourself rather indirectly admit that it wouldn't be effective measure *because* it doesn't connection to the underlying lack of motivation. You'd just have people paid more to half-ass (or, honestly, quarter-ass) it.

They make the job worse for their co-workers, and make things worse for customers/patrons.

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