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Topic3 things I never understood about the new wave of pronoun identity
2SweetforTurtle
12/15/20 8:46:27 PM
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Master Kazuya posted...
1, since when was it so wrong to be an effeminate man or a masculine woman? There have always been men that lean in their feminine side and women that lean in their masculine side. I don't think I've ever legit thought "that male nurse should be a woman" or "that woman who isn't girly is probably a dude". OR "hmm that guy is multi faceted, he must not be a gender".

First of all, nobody is saying that you cant be a masculine woman without being trans or anything like that. Secondly, youre conflating the ideas of gender identity with numerous other things. But literally not how that works. The idea of pronoun identity has nothing to do with the fact that people can be more masculine or more feminine, but instead about the gender itself. There are plenty of incredibly effeminate gay men who still identify as men. To them, being gay / effeminate has nothing to do with their gender, and instead more so about their sexual preferences and / or sense of style (in the case of things like fashion, makeup, etc etc). You can be effeminate and not gay, and gay and but not effeminate. The same can be said for women who play sports but arent lesbian, or buy mens clothes because it fits better or they like the look more.

Gender identity and things like sexual preferences, grooming, style, etc are separate concepts. Theyre so unrelated that there are plenty of trans people who get discriminated against by members of the LGBT community. Yes, there are transphobic gays. Conflating gender identity with sexual orientation isnt exactly accurate (although it does often get mixed together for the sake of Pride related stuff, hence why the community includes T in LGBT).


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