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Topic	Christmas is CANCELLED for Family cause 6 y/o spent $16,000+ on SONIC FORCES!!!
Zeus 12/14/20 1:44:59 AM #35:	streamofthesky posted... And yet another example of how evil Apple is. Apple isn't the maker of the app, they're the middleman who facilitated the transaction. It's like getting mad at Paypal. streamofthesky posted... She did.... She did not. There wasn't ONE mention of her reaching out to the app's maker. Instead she contacted Apple. She would have had better luck talking to Sega than Apple. streamofthesky posted... Btw, I recall a similar story a year or so ago w/ a Fifa game and it was either Sony or Nintendo that refunded the money even though it was an EA game, so they basically ate the cost to help the family. ...so what you're saying is that maybe she should reach out to Sega instead of Apple? LinkPizza posted... Not to downplay this, but there were a few things different about the stories. For Fifa, it was only 550, so about $667.44, according to Google... A very small amount compared to $16,293.10. Also, I heard that while the game was owned by EA, the payments were made via the family's Nintendo account, I guess... So, maybe they felt a little more responsible. And Nintendo is pretty nice. Plus, since they usually don't discount games, maybe they were feeling generous. Idk... Yeah, and Nintendo probably got their money back from EA anyway. adjl posted... On one hand, yes, parents should be supervising children's use of their credit cards. On the other, the fact that games have gotten to such a point that parents can be out $16k for failing to adequately supervise their child's gaming is utterly despicable. There's really no other way to describe it. ...it wasn't just that she failed to secure her credit card, she didn't notice the charges for OVER SIXTY DAYS, according to your highlighted selection earlier. Did she not read her credit card statements? Otherwise the risks here are the same risks with any other unsupervised use. If you don't monitor your kid with your credit card info, they can run up massive bills doing literally anything. Not to mention everything else the kid could have done while being unmonitored. Zareth posted... 1995: Supervise your child's gaming or they'll see pixelated blood in M rated games like Mortal Kombat 2020: Supervise your child's gaming or they'll spend $16k on a game rated E for everyone Parenting in 1995: Sit your kid in front of a tv and check in occasionally Parenting 2020: Give your kid unlimited access to a device more powerful than a 1995 computer, give that account direct access to your bank credit card, don't bother supervising the child or your credit card statements, and then act surprised when things go horribly wrong. Muscles posted... Why would you want to get your kids addicted to phones that young? They don't even need them Also this. But more importantly, if you are doing that, it should be on a separate device with parent controls that you're carefully monitoring. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:948309030] in Christmas ... [t:79173158]...</cite> <quote>streamofthesky posted... </cite> <quote>And yet another example of how evil Apple is.</quote> Apple isn't the maker of the app, they're the middleman who facilitated the transaction. It's like getting mad at Paypal. streamofthesky posted... </cite> <quote>She did....</quote> She did not. There wasn't ONE mention of her reaching out to the app's maker. Instead she contacted Apple. She would have had better luck talking to Sega than Apple. streamofthesky posted... </cite> <quote>Btw, I recall a similar story a year or so ago w/ a Fifa game and it was either Sony or Nintendo that refunded the money even though it was an EA game, so they basically ate the cost to help the family.</quote> ...so what you're saying is that maybe she should reach out to Sega instead of Apple? LinkPizza posted... </cite> <quote>Not to downplay this, but there were a few things different about the stories. For Fifa, it was only 550, so about $667.44, according to Google... A very small amount compared to $16,293.10. Also, I heard that while the game was owned by EA, the payments were made via the family's Nintendo account, I guess... So, maybe they felt a little more responsible. And Nintendo is pretty nice. Plus, since they usually don't discount games, maybe they were feeling generous. Idk...</quote> Yeah, and Nintendo probably got their money back from EA anyway. adjl posted... </cite> <quote>On one hand, yes, parents should be supervising children's use of their credit cards. On the other, the fact that games have gotten to such a point that parents can be out $16k for failing to adequately supervise their child's gaming is utterly despicable. There's really no other way to describe it.</quote> ...it wasn't just that she failed to secure her credit card, she didn't notice the charges for OVER SIXTY DAYS, according to your highlighted selection earlier. Did she not read her credit card statements? Otherwise the risks here are the same risks with any other unsupervised use. If you don't monitor your kid with your credit card info, they can run up massive bills doing literally anything. Not to mention everything else the kid could have done while being unmonitored. Zareth posted... </cite> <quote>1995: Supervise your child's gaming or they'll see pixelated blood in M rated games like Mortal Kombat 2020: Supervise your child's gaming or they'll spend $16k on a game rated E for everyone</quote> Parenting in 1995: Sit your kid in front of a tv and check in occasionally Parenting 2020: Give your kid unlimited access to a device more powerful than a 1995 computer, give that account direct access to your bank credit card, don't bother supervising the child or your credit card statements, and then act surprised when things go horribly wrong. Muscles posted... </cite> <quote>Why would you want to get your kids addicted to phones that young? They don't even need them</quote> Also this. But more importantly, if you are doing that, it should be on a separate device with parent controls that you're carefully monitoring. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. </quote> ... 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