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Topic	Sweden's Government is facing legal pushback over covid laws.
BalanceLost 11/17/20 7:59:55 AM #8:	ROBANN_88 posted... it's weird. i had been under the assumption that bars were already closed. they're only now getting told to stop at 22:30? Night clubs have been closed since March since that can be done under ordningslagen (the law of public order, Id guess is an accurate translation). Bars and restaurants are the targets of these special laws with closing at 22:30 and alcohol selling stop at 22:00. CommunismFTW posted... My city is saying only 4 people max from any one household can go out to eat or whatever. How the fuck are establishments supposed to enforce that? It's so pathetic that since the federal government isn't supporting my city with financial support for the inevitable wave of unemployment (again) they're just beating around the bush and pseudo fully locking us down without really doing it. At least the restaurant sector is getting financial aid here teepan95 posted... In such cases, implement the new rules now, then once the crisis is over hold the government accountable and punish if necessary Yeah, I agree with you. legendarylemur posted... A constitution that doesn't allow for flexibility in times of crisis is a poor constitution. That being said, in comparison, the US constitution actually does allow for flexibility in case of a pandemic and such, but it's really the govt and the people pushing back on very logical rules for disaster prevention There are a load of exceptions if we were to find ourselves at war or during a natural disaster, but none during pandemics (which is a short coming the politicians are working on now). Changes to the Constitution require two votes in Riksdagen where a majority votes for the change both times and a national election so the public has a say on the matter must be held between the two votes however. --- "BalanceLost has a steam-powered PS2 because Sweden don't have electric" - dimeanatrix <cite>BalanceLost posted [p:947267845] in Sweden'... [t:79114371]...</cite> <quote>ROBANN_88 posted... </cite> <quote>it's weird. i had been under the assumption that bars were already closed. they're only now getting told to stop at 22:30?</quote>Night clubs have been closed since March since that can be done under ordningslagen (the law of public order, Id guess is an accurate translation). Bars and restaurants are the targets of these special laws with closing at 22:30 and alcohol selling stop at 22:00. CommunismFTW posted... </cite> <quote>My city is saying only 4 people max from any one household can go out to eat or whatever. How the fuck are establishments supposed to enforce that? It's so pathetic that since the federal government isn't supporting my city with financial support for the inevitable wave of unemployment (again) they're just beating around the bush and pseudo fully locking us down without really doing it.</quote>At least the restaurant sector is getting financial aid here teepan95 posted... </cite> <quote>In such cases, implement the new rules now, then once the crisis is over hold the government accountable and punish if necessary</quote>Yeah, I agree with you. legendarylemur posted... </cite> <quote>A constitution that doesn't allow for flexibility in times of crisis is a poor constitution. That being said, in comparison, the US constitution actually does allow for flexibility in case of a pandemic and such, but it's really the govt and the people pushing back on very logical rules for disaster prevention</quote>There are a load of exceptions if we were to find ourselves at war or during a natural disaster, but none during pandemics (which is a short coming the politicians are working on now). Changes to the Constitution require two votes in Riksdagen where a majority votes for the change both times and a national election so the public has a say on the matter must be held between the two votes however. --- "BalanceLost has a steam-powered PS2 because Sweden don't have electric" - dimeanatrix</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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