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OhhhJa posted...

For people that deny the potential for mail in ballot fraud, many countries won't even do mail in ballots because of the potential for cheating, especially not mass mail in ballots

Nobody is denying the potential. You've been told this countless times. What people are denying is the existence of evidence that such fraud is happening on a sufficiently significant or partisan scale to actually influence the outcome of any election. It's estimated that electoral fraud in the US accounts for ~ 0.0009% of votes. By comparison, Covid has killed 0.0007% of the American population. You can't really dismiss one number while claiming a similar is particularly significant, especially when the number you're trivializing is people dying and the other one is extra votes that will only matter if they happen to be the ones that tip the scale.

Furthermore, if mail-in ballots are so horrifically vulnerable to fraud, that doesn't justify the GOP throwing their hands up and saying "they're too insecure! We can't do it!". It's the goddamn 21st century. There's absolutely no reason they can't come up with a more secure, sophisticated system than writing on a piece of paper and putting it in a mailbox. It's painfully obvious to everyone that isn't afraid of them being wrong that the only reason they're objecting is because they stand to benefit from making it less convenient and safe to vote. If they really were just objecting due to security concerns, they'd be trying to fix the security concerns.

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