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Topic	Who is the worst president of all time?
Entity13 10/28/20 2:10:43 AM #23:	YoukaiSlayer posted... And I'm saying even if every president before like 20 years ago had been great and only done good things, I think it still would have ended up roughly the same way. I think given technology, the people in charge are using the optimal strategy and because it's optimal for them, someone would have arrived at that same strategy no matter what systems were in place. The ability to obfuscate every process that matters and bombard idiots with too much information to make good decisions is a fundamental weakness that is being exploited in just about every country's government Define "good things," though. Do you plainly mean just benevolent for its own sake, or is there more to it such as taking steps to improve the system so it doesn't become an unwieldy mess? Good leaders try to consider such things. In the past 40 years, there hasn't been enough of that. Whatever efforts one man might have made toward a better system was undone by the next if he was of the opposing party, and neither side could truly overlook the party divide long enough to agree upon an adequate number of systemic changes. Then what little had been put into place by Republicans and Democrats alike was undone by Trump, who himself is an amalgamation of all the wrong things leading up to the present, whether because he didn't like it outright or because it simply didn't have his name on it. Things that are wrong today most certainly date back to anywhere from the 1960 election to Nixon's resignation from presidency. These things could and should have been addressed, and some barely were without any meaningful solution. We should have never let up on tax brackets for the obscenely rich. We should have done better against racism at all levels. We should have made sure elections were more about policy than good looks or positive familiarity, and make elections about the country as a whole rather than which party is more popular than the other that season. We should have strengthened the division between church and state so the former would not dictate policy on any state or federal level. Roe vs Wade should have been ruled with better language in terms of health, rather than leaving it to another case that defined health with such broad strokes that of course RvW ends up taking the heat as a point of contention between supporters and deniers. "Good" isn't what I'm saying we should have aimed for here. I'm saying thoughtful, resounding action with this country as a whole is what was key, but we tossed that key in a radioactive furnace and reused what was left to make something dangerous. 2020 was when things blew up, because we as a country let it get to this point. --- http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb179/EntityXIII/entityfn7.jpg <cite>Entity13 posted [p:946395792] in Who is the... [t:79068195]...</cite> <quote>YoukaiSlayer posted... </cite> <quote>And I'm saying even if every president before like 20 years ago had been great and only done good things, I think it still would have ended up roughly the same way. I think given technology, the people in charge are using the optimal strategy and because it's optimal for them, someone would have arrived at that same strategy no matter what systems were in place. The ability to obfuscate every process that matters and bombard idiots with too much information to make good decisions is a fundamental weakness that is being exploited in just about every country's government</quote> Define "good things," though. Do you plainly mean just benevolent for its own sake, or is there more to it such as taking steps to improve the system so it doesn't become an unwieldy mess? Good leaders try to consider such things. In the past 40 years, there hasn't been enough of that. Whatever efforts one man might have made toward a better system was undone by the next if he was of the opposing party, and neither side could truly overlook the party divide long enough to agree upon an adequate number of systemic changes. Then what little had been put into place by Republicans and Democrats alike was undone by Trump, who himself is an amalgamation of all the wrong things leading up to the present, whether because he didn't like it outright or because it simply didn't have his name on it. Things that are wrong today most certainly date back to anywhere from the 1960 election to Nixon's resignation from presidency. These things could and should have been addressed, and some barely were without any meaningful solution. We should have never let up on tax brackets for the obscenely rich. We should have done better against racism at all levels. We should have made sure elections were more about policy than good looks or positive familiarity, and make elections about the country as a whole rather than which party is more popular than the other that season. We should have strengthened the division between church and state so the former would not dictate policy on any state or federal level. Roe vs Wade should have been ruled with better language in terms of health, rather than leaving it to another case that defined health with such broad strokes that of course RvW ends up taking the heat as a point of contention between supporters and deniers. "Good" isn't what I'm saying we should have aimed for here. I'm saying thoughtful, resounding action with this country as a whole is what was key, but we tossed that key in a radioactive furnace and reused what was left to make something dangerous. 2020 was when things blew up, because we as a country let it get to this point. --- http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb179/EntityXIII/entityfn7.jpg</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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