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Topic	It's shocking to me that people still don't know the real history of Christopher
Unbridled9 10/16/20 11:44:15 AM #180:	Ok. But that' still not rewriting history. Schools only teaching about the good is closer to rewriting history that he was. Especially when they act like he was the first to find land here when many explorers came before. As I said, the history is already there. He's not adding anything that didn't happen already. it happened, but people just gloss over it. And they shouldn't. You can still put the good up there. Just make sure to talk about the bad, too. And to probably teach kids that their were explorers that found land first. Or were more likely to. Sorry, but no. Columbus is still extremely important. He's the first documented contact between the old world and the new. The only people prior were the Vikings (And hey, look who I suggested earlier as a possible replacement!) and not only were they not confirmed to have arrived in America until relatively recently (1970's IIRC) their encounter was relatively minor at best. Not saying it wasn't important; just saying that 'a few viking explorers tried to settle for a few years before giving up' is very different from 'established a functioning colony and kicked off an entire revolution in how effectively everything functioned'. While there is some scattered evidence for chinese, japanese, and even roman encounters it is, at best, highly circumstantial and calling it even 'inconclusive' would be a leap. However, I would counter that your argument is more an issue with the poor education provided by public schools and a failure to properly teach history in general, regulating it more to a series of names and dates. I mean most people remember Columbus purely from 'In 1492 Columbus sailed the ocean blue' and you yourself say classes don't cover people extensively. I'm assuming you are referring to people actually relevant to the history of America as opposed to, say, Shaka Zulu who, while important and the like in african history, didn't really impact U.S. --- I am the gentle hand who heals, the happy smile who shields, and the foot that will kick your *! - White Mage <cite>Unbridled9 posted [p:945923805] in It's shock... [t:79038465]...</cite> <quote>Ok. But that' still not rewriting history. Schools only teaching about the good is closer to rewriting history that he was. Especially when they act like he was the first to find land here when many explorers came before. As I said, the history is already there. He's not adding anything that didn't happen already. it happened, but people just gloss over it. And they shouldn't. You can still put the good up there. Just make sure to talk about the bad, too. And to probably teach kids that their were explorers that found land first. Or were more likely to. Sorry, but no. Columbus is still extremely important. He's the first documented contact between the old world and the new. The only people prior were the Vikings (And hey, look who I suggested earlier as a possible replacement!) and not only were they not confirmed to have arrived in America until relatively recently (1970's IIRC) their encounter was relatively minor at best. Not saying it wasn't important; just saying that 'a few viking explorers tried to settle for a few years before giving up' is very different from 'established a functioning colony and kicked off an entire revolution in how effectively everything functioned'. While there is some scattered evidence for chinese, japanese, and even roman encounters it is, at best, highly circumstantial and calling it even 'inconclusive' would be a leap. However, I would counter that your argument is more an issue with the poor education provided by public schools and a failure to properly teach history in general, regulating it more to a series of names and dates. I mean most people remember Columbus purely from 'In 1492 Columbus sailed the ocean blue' and you yourself say classes don't cover people extensively. I'm assuming you are referring to people actually relevant to the history of America as opposed to, say, Shaka Zulu who, while important and the like in african history, didn't really impact U.S. --- I am the gentle hand who heals, the happy smile who shields, and the foot that will kick your *! - White Mage</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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