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ZeeksFire posted...

Using blatant invincibility versus any other of the hundreds of other tools that cloud has, was the point i was making. I mean, you have his bike, various materia (including comparing summons how they work in the remake vs normal (I AM NOT COUNTING KOTR as a valid choice)). Also looking at the remake, cloud is vastly more on the ground, he is not an aerial fighter, barring some of his limits... although it does give a vastly more impressive view of his swordplay in there.

(We had that complaint on maxwell in the discussion topic just a bit ago, and I don't think cloud would be the person to lean on starting with invincibility (that's a player designation), he'd go in with the sword.)

The remake is irrelevant. Advent Children is, at the moment, Cloud at his peak of power. Why would you use something that doesn't showcase him at his strongest?

And sure, let's talk all his other tools then -- Cloud has Haste, which lets him go at double speed. He has Shell, which halves the damage he takes, and Dragon Force, which doubles his magic defense (these stack with each other). So he 's taking a quarter of the damage from anything that hits him. He has Bad Breath, which inflicts, among other things, blindness, silence, mini and frog at once, making fighting impossible. He has Magic Hammer, which drains MP -- refer to the whole 'Harry's casting stamina fucking blows' bit here in case you're wondering why this matters. And he is, of course, a massive force in a melee. Refer to the whole 'cuts his way through skyscrapers' bit up above. He has all the tools to counter Harry and I don't even think he needs them in the first place considering none of Harry's attacks are at all close to the level of things he's survived unscathed. I don't really see how he loses it, he's just on a different tier of power compared to his opponent.

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