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Topic	Why are leftist so radical about abortion rights?
wolfy42 09/20/20 12:56:17 AM #123:	LinkPizza posted... Probably not. But maybe we should give all the fathers vasectomies, as well... Tracking down the father can often be hard, but I mentioned above I'm pro snipping guys at puberty, and only reversing it later if they schedule to have it done (which would stop all unwanted pregnancies right away basically). At least make it some kind of option to have done around that age, perhaps for free (not getting into the issue of free health care here, just doing this would save the gov tons of money in the long run anyway). I no that is never gonna happen though, but I do think people could get behind the have and abortion, tie the tubes idea. It's not fair, I realize it's not fair, but it's MORE fair to the freaking kids who should be the ultimate focus. People think abortion is murder, but torture is worse then murder, and bringing someone into this world with no support is often torture. We can't give children a choice over if they exist or not, so it's on us to make that existance as pleasant and non-horrible as possible. The problem is pretty much everyone who ever has any actual real power are politicians who are almost all from rich/wealthy families and the concept of life being something you might not want, is pretty foreign to them. Giving birth in some ways could be considered rape in a way, not of the woman, but of the child, they are being forced into this world without consent. The had absolutely no say about their creation, and no control over how their life is going to be at least for quite a few years. I'm not saying we should have no children at all, but I AM saying that we should be responsible for those kids that do get born, most especially the parents of those kids. Sadly there are many people who do not believe that and some even think they own the kids and the kids owe them for being born etc. We actually have technology to freeze eggs and sperm, so you could literally have that done for everyone when they hit puberty (or fairly soon afterwards) and you wouldn't even need to undo the surgeries at that point. It would make it very easy for people to hire surragates later on as well (which might just become another job that is common to have). We are not at demolition man etc stage, but we are certainly to a point where we could stop all unwanted pregnancies and still have procreation continue just fine. --- Tacobot 3000 "Saving the world from not having tacos." Glowing Elephant "Stonehedge was a sex thing." <cite>wolfy42 posted [p:944842508] in Why are le... [t:78986545]...</cite> <quote>LinkPizza posted... </cite> <quote>Probably not. But maybe we should give all the fathers vasectomies, as well...</quote> Tracking down the father can often be hard, but I mentioned above I'm pro snipping guys at puberty, and only reversing it later if they schedule to have it done (which would stop all unwanted pregnancies right away basically). At least make it some kind of option to have done around that age, perhaps for free (not getting into the issue of free health care here, just doing this would save the gov tons of money in the long run anyway). I no that is never gonna happen though, but I do think people could get behind the have and abortion, tie the tubes idea. It's not fair, I realize it's not fair, but it's MORE fair to the freaking kids who should be the ultimate focus. People think abortion is murder, but torture is worse then murder, and bringing someone into this world with no support is often torture. We can't give children a choice over if they exist or not, so it's on us to make that existance as pleasant and non-horrible as possible. The problem is pretty much everyone who ever has any actual real power are politicians who are almost all from rich/wealthy families and the concept of life being something you might not want, is pretty foreign to them. Giving birth in some ways could be considered rape in a way, not of the woman, but of the child, they are being forced into this world without consent. The had absolutely no say about their creation, and no control over how their life is going to be at least for quite a few years. I'm not saying we should have no children at all, but I AM saying that we should be responsible for those kids that do get born, most especially the parents of those kids. Sadly there are many people who do not believe that and some even think they own the kids and the kids owe them for being born etc. We actually have technology to freeze eggs and sperm, so you could literally have that done for everyone when they hit puberty (or fairly soon afterwards) and you wouldn't even need to undo the surgeries at that point. It would make it very easy for people to hire surragates later on as well (which might just become another job that is common to have). We are not at demolition man etc stage, but we are certainly to a point where we could stop all unwanted pregnancies and still have procreation continue just fine. --- Tacobot 3000 "Saving the world from not having tacos." Glowing Elephant "Stonehedge was a sex thing."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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