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Webmaster4531 posted...

Source 1 "Socialism may be defined as movements for social ownership and control of the economy."

Weasel worded.

Source 2 "Socialism, you see, is a bird with two wings. The definition is 'social ownership and democratic control of the instruments and means of production.'"

Source 3 "What else does a socialist economic system involve? Those who favor socialism generally speak of social ownership, social control, or socialization of the means of production as the distinctive positive feature of a socialist economic system."

None of these completely support the first sentence.

We have social ownership and democratic control of the means of production in the U.S.

Okay is socialism means government doing stuff then it is meaningless as as I said before, since all governments do stuff. You have people advocating fascism calling it socialism (at least one in this topic, and others have as well), you have people who just want a strong welfare state in a capitalist society calling that socialism, and then you have few people going by the actual definition of worker control of the means of production. If your argument is socialism has no meaning than that's fine. I don't advocate for socialism (largely because of the people who identify with it being indistinguishable from fascists) nor support socialists, so I like to make it clear what socialism is. Wanting the currently existing welfare state in every single country on Earth to be stronger is in no way related to socialism and trying to conflate it with socialism helps no one.

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