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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 314: USPSBS
GentlemanGamer
08/12/20 10:38:21 AM
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Kamala didn't change anything for me, I was merely responding to how I interpreted people who were effected by it. Having said that, the idea that ambition is positive or only used negatively against women is absolutely not what I was suggesting- my point is that she is ambitious to the point where her perceived progressive voting record is viewed as disingenuous or unreliable, particularly to how she would manage an executive, by many as a result of her past actions as a prosecutor and attorney general. Much like how Hillary Clinton once championed universal healthcare and later declared it impossible- people make political adjustments to achieve their ambitions.The fact someone who called out Joe Biden as a rapist and a racist would not only endorse him, but join his ticket, is yet another sign of her ambition taking priority over her principles. I don't understand why the pick would change anything from a personal standpoint, but I do understand why it would effect/dishearten people who were already very reluctant or waffling in their support from the start. People like to talk about Bernie or Busters, but the kind of people turned off by a Kamala pick are the same kind of people for whom Bernie was a compromise to begin with, and for whom Bernie is not an infallible cult leader like he is portrayed, but someone who is far too cozy with power and the establishment in their eyes. The appeal for many of Bernie is his principled stands over a long time, so endorsing Joe Biden or Hillary Clinton who are also clearly ambitious career politicians without principles hurts his standing with voters who care about principles. These are not 'democrats', but voters for whom Joe Biden was already a difficult thing to come to terms with, let alone paired with someone who shares many of his major weaknesses. It really does seem like many people have no interest in understanding these kinds of voters, but merely in condemning them. That is up to you, but please stop pretending to understand people who you spend absolutely no time trying to understand, and merely wish to handwave away.
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