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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 313: August and Everything After
HeroDelTiempo17
08/05/20 6:36:39 PM
#298:


Also let me attempt to engage with the original question to illustrate the point here

BakusaiTenketsu posted...
So I have a question about defunding and/or abolishing the Police. I lean liberal, but I don't understand this push personally. What exactly is the our proposed action for security and law enforcement if we have no police? I'm legit ignorant here and want to know what happens if the police are abolished from the USA.

The short answer is: we don't know! But that's because we don't possess the social technology needed to definitely say. To draw a point of comparison to climate change, if someone says "we need to stop using ALL fossil fuels" the common response is "how? We have no sufficient energy alternatives." In both cases, the solution is to develop that technology. And activists, community organizations, and indigenous people have been doing work to see what forms community-based "transformative justice" might take.

Here's an article you can read if you have time that might shed some light on that approach
https://www.bustle.com/rule-breakers/police-abolition-domestic-violence

The second thing is, we do know what the process of police abolition looks like, and it's basically exactly what Sir Chris and Reg said - you reallocate resources away from the police towards alternatives that will do a better job of solving the "problems" police aren't equipped to handle. And you keep doing this until you figure out the bare minimum resources you can give to police and have a safe society. Defund and Abolish are in agreement on this - they differ on the endpoint. Police abolitionists are pretty sure that we'll eventually get to the point where the best number of cops is zero, so they do this work with that in mind as the goal.

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