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wolfy42 posted...

While there is usually a larger % of dark skinned people in prison in other countries (like England for instance) it's never even slightly close to the huge difference in the US. Here it's 5x or more, in most other countries it's usually 2x or less.

In the UK 3% are black, yet 12% of the prison population is black. We also have groups linking all minorities together to offset the black population's significant overrepresentation so it looks like whitey being racist rather than some races just doing worse.

wolfy42 posted...

A white criminal is very likely to either have the money for a better attorney or have family that does.

lolno.

wolfy42 posted...

Repeated offenses which have been commited by white people and ignored or given warnings (IE drugs), but which can send non-white people to jail/prison for years....is not fair, and I have personally seen that when I was younger (sadly over 20 years ago....and it's still going on). Heck, I knew one guy (a friend of a friend) who freaking Dealt drugs and still didn't go to jail after being caught more than once, which is crazy.

Anecdotal evidence isn't particularly useful, particularly when you don't know how they're communicating with the police. Like I said earlier, if you're beligerent with the police, you get the book thrown at you.

wolfy42 posted...

As for acting differently, damn straight. If you know people who are similar to you (in this case same skin color) have been targeted by police and you grow up in schools where they never come and talk to you etc, and you have friends and family who have been arrested by them, or persecuted by them (searched for no reason etc), and you literally have grown up fearing them, your gonna act differently.

Chicken/Egg.

You're still dealing with authorities and as such you can't act up and expect to be treated the same. There's no excuse that allows you to act worse with the police but expect matching treatment. They decide your fate so you have to be as pleasant and cooperative as possible or you're going to be marked as yet another beligerent.

wolfy42 posted...

IF you instead go to a nice, safe, mostly white school where cops show up and talk to kids throughout the years, tell them to "stay off drugs" and follow the laws etc, and your family and friends all talk about how cops are heroes and protect them......yeah, your gonna act differently if you do something illegal and are dealing with them. Duh.

And if the people aren't being difficult with you, you're more willing to talk to them as it seems like they might actually listen to you. The police aren't going to do a visibility campaign in an area where their presence is seen as a threat. If the area says "fuck off police", they're going to keep their distance unless necessary as they're not going to get any positive reception by trying.

Also why do you think it's a good thing for the police to come in to schools and lecture students? To me it's just a polite way of saying "we're fucking watching you", it's not a positive experience. You only talk about cops as heroes if you personally know them or if they help people you know, most people I know refer to the police as just a background entity, a mild nuisance to be ignored.

wolfy42 posted...

It's not fair, plain and simple, and it should be.

It's definitely fair, it's like for like. You don't get postive communication from the police when your area doesn't give it. If the air is hostile then everybody's on their toes, you can't expect the police to be the ones to hand out the olive branch, and if the attempt at peace is shot down, you can't expect them to keep trying to bridge the gap.

If you live in a shitty area then you have to expect the cops to be shitty with you, they're not going to be buddy-buddy with you if the whole neighbourhood is anti-cop because repeated drugs offenders got arrested.
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