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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 270: Bloomberg/Clinton 2020 Campaign HQ
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02/20/20 2:55:01 PM
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HeroDelTiempo17 posted...
I mean "most votes" is not a good system for an open, multiple-choice race like this, or anything more important than say a gamefaqs contest. I think the surrogate is right to frame it around the superdelegates not being a good solution (they're not) and supporting ranked choice (this is). The delegate system is like a bad ranked choice by party insiders, but equating "most votes" here to popular vote in the presidency like the host does is totally disingenuous.

Agreed on the Iowa talking point but I honestly have no idea what point is even being made whenever it gets brought up. Bernie's camp supported the caucus, helped reform it for more transparency, and exposed a clusterfuck. Okay. I dont understand the leap in logic to it being their fault from there.


obviously we would all prefer ranked choice voting, but that's not the system we have and not the system we're going to have come convention time. i'll agree that the host is using loaded framing sometimes (i have some issues with krystal ball/rising overall) but ultimately i think she's right.

the argument that the iowa shit is bernie's fault is that there were bernie sanders surrogates on the unity reform committee. but honestly if you're really interested in that, just watch the first couple minutes of the video in my previous post. nomiki explains it much better (and she was one of the two sanders people on the committee)

honestly watch the whole thing (it's a bit long and unscripted but she covers many great points).

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