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Topic	If you use rewind/save state to finish a game, did you beat it?
Emeraldegg 01/03/20 12:31:30 PM #422:	I think there's an important distinction here, in that save states could potentially be used in good ways and not so good ways. A good way to me would be if you're saving before a particularly tough boss, you save before it, attempt it, fail, reload the save to where you were starting that section, repeat until you get the whole run and are able to complete the whole thing in one go. More like what Meow is talking about. That's just a time saver while still gaining all the experience the game has to offer. A more not so good way would be if you're starting as the above, but during said boss you save in the middle of that run repeatedly so that you know exactly what is coming and when right then and just immediately do that particular section of that run, over and over until you get it. In essence playing a bunch of mini-sections which are made easier by the fact that you know what's coming exactly in the next segment. Imagine I'm playing a card game like Magic or something, something with random draws. I play against a certain type of deck best out of 3. After the first game, I know more about what cards that deck has, and what strategies it likes to do, but I don't know when it will play things. Perhaps the cards still don't go my way but I actually learned things and tried to alter my playing strategy to beat it. Now imagine I do that but I know every card I'm going to draw in advance. I know my opening hand and my opponent's opening play, so I do something different this time. In response, their follow up play is different than what I experienced in the previous example, so I'm thrown off...but I then go back in time and do the sequence again, and I do this over and over again until I reach the best outcome. Some types of games, I get it. Maybe like an RPG where you're just in it for the story. Such things can actually improve your enjoyment of it, especially if the gameplay is rather annoying. It keeps frustration to a minimum. But if you're playing a game to say you "completed" the challenges that the game has to offer, like said mega man game, the 2nd scenario shouldn't really give you any satisfaction if you used that method to complete it. --- I'm a greener egg than the eggs from dr. seuss <cite>Emeraldegg posted [p:932409764] in If you use... [t:78290078]...</cite> <quote>I think there's an important distinction here, in that save states could potentially be used in good ways and not so good ways. A good way to me would be if you're saving before a particularly tough boss, you save before it, attempt it, fail, reload the save to where you were starting that section, repeat until you get the whole run and are able to complete the whole thing in one go. More like what Meow is talking about. That's just a time saver while still gaining all the experience the game has to offer. A more not so good way would be if you're starting as the above, but during said boss you save in the middle of that run repeatedly so that you know exactly what is coming and when right then and just immediately do that particular section of that run, over and over until you get it. In essence playing a bunch of mini-sections which are made easier by the fact that you know what's coming exactly in the next segment. Imagine I'm playing a card game like Magic or something, something with random draws. I play against a certain type of deck best out of 3. After the first game, I know more about what cards that deck has, and what strategies it likes to do, but I don't know when it will play things. Perhaps the cards still don't go my way but I actually learned things and tried to alter my playing strategy to beat it. Now imagine I do that but I know every card I'm going to draw in advance. I know my opening hand and my opponent's opening play, so I do something different this time. In response, their follow up play is different than what I experienced in the previous example, so I'm thrown off...but I then go back in time and do the sequence again, and I do this over and over again until I reach the best outcome. Some types of games, I get it. Maybe like an RPG where you're just in it for the story. Such things can actually improve your enjoyment of it, especially if the gameplay is rather annoying. It keeps frustration to a minimum. But if you're playing a game to say you "completed" the challenges that the game has to offer, like said mega man game, the 2nd scenario shouldn't really give you any satisfaction if you used that method to complete it. --- I'm a greener egg than the eggs from dr. seuss</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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