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_AdjI_ posted...

So you wouldn't want snake-infested areas to be signed well enough for you to avoid them as needed? You'd happily wade into such an area without any sort of training

I've been arguing for training this whole time, now you think you can flip it? lol

I'm happy to do what I always do as I know what I need to do in an emergency. If I can deal with a rare incident when it happens and walk away from it, I'd rather not be encumbered with unnecessary heavy boots and thick clothes in the summer.

_AdjI_ posted...

Being able to fix the problem after it happens makes it unnecessary to go to extraordinary lengths to minimize risks, but that doesn't mean it's not a good idea to take reasonable measures to minimize the risk instead of relying on that treatment.

Define "reasonable measures".

To somebody who hates guns on principle alone and hates mentally ill people a gun ban and mandatory asylum for all potentially mentally ill people may seem reasonable, however people who use guns for a living or have a mental illness without being a danger, being heavily restricted is completely unreasonable.

I know of no restriction you can put in place that isn't wildly unreasonable to some entirely innocent group.

_AdjI_ posted...

And yet we do have countries with virtually zero mass shootings. It's almost like it's not actually necessary to hit zero. Who knew?

It's as though they're not the only, or even most important, factors involved in US mass shootings.

The UK has free healthcare and heavily restricted gun control yet we had a school shooting once. Switzerland has guns everywhere and there's none I know of.

What I see is no direct correlation between legal gun ownership, mental health services and mass shootings but some people still assume there's a neat cure-all sitting neatly between them.

_AdjI_ posted...

If you're trying to dismiss what this guy did as "just harmless trolling" and not "behaving in a threatening manner," you might want to choose an analogy that doesn't completely dismantle your attempted point.

You devolving in to black and white thinking is a neat example of how people need to learn subtleties so they don't overreact.

What he did was trolling. That doesn't make what he did harmless, but it also doesn't make it a terroristic threat. It sits in a window of greyness you're not willing to take on board.
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Doctor Foxx posted...
The demonizing of soy has a lot to do with xenophobic ideas.